Sometimes you have to move the mountain to moses. The cost of real routers
is not really that much money. The  initial cost versus the experience
gained  is  so high % wise  that it's foolish to do any other way (just
about).
 I was on an interview today  and the dude  said and he was kidding  I bet
you have a few routers at home ?
And I told him yes about 20  odd ..
Then I told him why I had 20  and he said that  I was one of a very few  who
he had interviewed that had labs at home..
then he said about  VOIP  and much to his surprise I told him I had a couple
of VOIP boxes but just have not has the time to play with them ..

I don't really need this job  but I am just keeping my options open in case
something else does not pan out.
But every job I have even from the help desk days  it was my playing with
the toys that got me jobs  more so than letters and passing exams.
Because thats how newbies get the experience by buying the toys and playing
with them  SEEING how it works  and or does not work ..
FOR ME  that helps me understand it all .
like right now  playing with Checkpoint  and it's cool I can create a real
complicated access list debug it then export in to a router  cool huh.
 Kinda make the Cisco was a little arcane  but it has helped me understand
access lists a heap more.
Which mean I just learn that I know very little sigh


Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm

Maybe the Lab as I strongly suspect and the contributors here have rightly
indicated is the make/break but the simple question is where the devil is
Cisco going to find the Networkers to do the job?  Where is the hands on
going to come and who is going to let a newbie anywhere near an operational
router?


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