John,

Perhaps your bias is based on the intrinsic value of longevity, of
experience, associated with the lower number.  You tell me.

Another poster, Craig Columbus [EMAIL PROTECTED],
pointed out market forces, to which I find no objection, however speculative
it is.  There is the trend of saturation of market with technicians, but the
same argument, if it must, can be made against those holding the good old
bachelors of engineering: e.g. those working their own ice cream stands
throughout the country - if they are not yet exported to Singapore (speaking
from the USA perspective).

Again, NRF's stress is that of the inherent fallacy of the certification
process itself, of the lack of value of the certification due to the "lack
of credibility" associated with it due to, according to him, abundant
over-supply of test related information.  I respectfully disagree with that
one-dimensional assessment, and the main objection that I make is that ALL
educational programs suffer from such "abundance of digitally/Internet based
information."  That is a weak argument in itself to justify promoting a myth
that destroys the reputation of sometimes rigorous (if accomplished
honestly) certification tracks.

The only "hole" in the CCIE certification that could be found, due to the
lack of such "Internet based information supply" argument pertaining to the
lab, is that of "numbers."  One individual says "there are too many for the
market, so you now have devaluation," but at least this individual does not
attempt to degrade the educational and testing process of certification
itself.  The other individuals says "higher number CCIEs are inferior due to
the easier lab," to which some experienced in taking the lab exam object
vehemently.

You be the judge.

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I think nrf is using this as a hypothetical examle to reinforce his point.
He's not implying that it would be reasonable or likely.  I feel that it
does a good job of illustrating the point.  Many people--not all, and maybe
not even a majority--give more weight in their own minds to CCIEs with lower
numbers.  I will admit to doing this myself sometimes, and right or wrong it
demonstrates a bias that many share.  This bias appears to be more and more
prevalent among HR people and nrf is simply pointing this out while
attempting to show that many of us, if we're honest, have the same bias.

John




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