On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, NP-BASS LEON wrote:
> I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone needs to
> say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT EXTREME, NOT
> JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO, LET US
> NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to make a
If you wish to be successfull in your "cisco" voyage, it does help to know
a little bit about what the competition is doing. This will make you more
cluefull, and clue is in short supply these days.
> comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the time of
> individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every other
> router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to
> discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there
> interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air time to be
> critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up your
> own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of individuals who
Is this not our own time? You think being critical of cisco is a bad
thing? You need to know the good, the bad and the ugly.........and trust
me, their is a mix of all of it when it comes to cisco.
> want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all I see
> and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing that,
> Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take your
> money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical
> knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue to
> read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is trying
> to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put down
> Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just my 2
I think what we have on this list, is a bunch of intelligent people who
just like to talk. Not only do they enjoy helping people solve problems
but also a little harmless healthy argument now and then keeps us sharp.
We are fortunate to have cisco employees/engineers on this list too...
You see when someone says something they don't like about cisco, and then
they say "juniper can do this, foundry can do this, cisco can't".......who
knows the outcome? What may happen is that a knowledagle cisco employee
says "You know we *can* do that, its in this release of IOS, blah blah
blah"......the result? We learn.........and I think thats a good thing. I
mean, I don't think this got so far out of hand that people are being
insulted, I think this is just healthy debate........
> cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point, provide
> something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY study, we
> only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should, could or
> would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that, but
> keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES.
Leon, what would you like help with, I would hate for you to feel
neglected.........but if you need some help just ask and I am sure alot of
people will help you out.
Brian
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ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881)
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