Also, remember - this group has had a slight design change.  The group is
now a combination of two groups, Professional and Tech.  The Tech group may
discuss any issue related to network engineering, not just Cisco products.

Please read http://www.groupstudy.com/lists/cisco.html  and
http://www.groupstudy.com/list/changes.html for more information.

Paul


"John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I agree, Leon should relax a little.  Sure, this is a Cisco certification
> study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that.  This is
> natural considering the number of list members who have developed
> relationships with each other.  We all know the regulars, and sometimes we
> go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is.
>
> We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also a
> great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn from,
> regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not.
>
> It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by
always
> including OT in the subject line.  I try to, but I don't always remember.
> Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might
not
> be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we
certainly
> would not want to ban those topics.
>
> So, everyone should do three things:
>
> 1.  Chill out a little
> 2.  Be more specific with subject lines
> 3.  Learn to use the Delete button
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> >  GEEZ Leon....relax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often.
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM
> >  Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
> >
> >
> >  > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone
needs
> to
> >  > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT
EXTREME,
> NOT
> >  > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but CISCO,
> LET
> >  US
> >  > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to
make
> a
> >  > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste the
> time
> >  of
> >  > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every
> other
> >  > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want to
> >  > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there
> >  > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air
time
> to
> >  be
> >  > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open up
> your
> >  > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of
individuals
> >  who
> >  > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month, all
I
> see
> >  > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing
> that,
> >  > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take
> your
> >  > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical
> >  > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to continue
> to
> >  > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site is
> >  trying
> >  > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than put
> down
> >  > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just
my
> 2
> >  > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my point,
> >  provide
> >  > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY
> study,
> >  we
> >  > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should,
could
> or
> >  > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share that,
> but
> >  > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
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