I have been pretty aggressive about keeping sales off the list.  If someone
abuses the list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it will be taken
care of.

Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP


> Sure, if I can sell it to you
>
> Brian Roe (GS-11)
> TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks
> 12 AF AFETS
> 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111
> Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707
> Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:36 PM
> To: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
>
> Well brian if I ask a question about access lists and I get a reply about
> buying a Cat 65xx can I borrow 50 grand.
> Duck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:12 AM
> Subject: RE: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
>
>
> >
> > Quick question...what is going to prevent this study group from
> potentially
> > turning into a sales forum? With the anonymity that the Internet
provides
> > for all I know the advice I get could come from a sales rep?
> >
> > Brian Roe (GS-11)
> > TDC ICAP Deployable Systems/Tactical Networks
> > 12 AF AFETS
> > 5280 E Gafford Way (Bldg.72) Suite 111
> > Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ 85707
> > Ph:520-228-2028 Fax:520-228-4384
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 9:03 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
> >
> > I agree, Leon should relax a little.  Sure, this is a Cisco
certification
> > study group by name, but it has evolved to be more than that.  This is
> > natural considering the number of list members who have developed
> > relationships with each other.  We all know the regulars, and sometimes
we
> > go off on tangents--shop talk, that's all it is.
> >
> > We know that this list is here for cisco-specific topics, but it is also
a
> > great place to get the opinions of others who you respect and learn
from,
> > regardless of whether it is Cisco-specific or not.
> >
> > It would help if everyone made their off-topic posts very apparent by
> always
> > including OT in the subject line.  I try to, but I don't always
remember.
> > Besides, there are a large number of cisco-related questions that might
> not
> > be specifically related to one of the Cisco certifications, and we
> certainly
> > would not want to ban those topics.
> >
> > So, everyone should do three things:
> >
> > 1.  Chill out a little
> > 2.  Be more specific with subject lines
> > 3.  Learn to use the Delete button
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> > >  GEEZ Leon....relax. Its ok to go off on tangents every so often.
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > >  From: "NP-BASS LEON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:23 AM
> > >  Subject: THIS IS A CISCO STUDY GROUP
> > >
> > >
> > >  > I have used this study group for a while now and I think someone
> needs
> > to
> > >  > say this, this study group is called a CISCO study group, NOT
> EXTREME,
> > NOT
> > >  > JUNIPER. NOT FOUNDRY or any other vendor you can think of, but
CISCO,
> > LET
> > >  US
> > >  > NOT FORGET THIS "RIF" Reading is fundamental. If you are going to
> make
> > a
> > >  > comparison because of compatibility issues fine, but don't waste
the
> > time
> > >  of
> > >  > individuals that are trying to learn with your opinions about every
> > other
> > >  > router and switch in the world, FRANKLY WHO CARES. Now if you want
to
> > >  > discuss issues you have had with these devices being and there
> > >  > interoperability then fine, inform us, but degrading or using air
> time
> > to
> > >  be
> > >  > critical of Cisco, it's engineers or even it's support, then open
up
> > your
> > >  > own CHAT ROOM and do that on your own TIME. Not the time of
> individuals
> > >  who
> > >  > want to advance and learn. I say this because in the past month,
all
> I
> > see
> > >  > and read is Cisco is in trouble because of this, Cisco isn't doing
> > that,
> > >  > Cisco better do this, If you are fed up with Cisco and want to take
> > your
> > >  > money other places then do it, I enjoy this sight for the technical
> > >  > knowledge that it provides, for individuals on this sight to
continue
> > to
> > >  > read negative statements, enforces the opposite of what this site
is
> > >  trying
> > >  > to build, it's obvious some of us have nothing better to do than
put
> > down
> > >  > Cisco don't have a lot of equitable knowledge to share anyway. Just
> my
> > 2
> > >  > cents. Reply if you like, but it will just once again make my
point,
> > >  provide
> > >  > something knowledgable, not your opinion, This is not a PHILOSOPHY
> > study,
> > >  we
> > >  > only need your Cisco experience, not what you think Cisco should,
> could
> > or
> > >  > would do, Whatever they don't do, get it else where, and share
that,
> > but
> > >  > keep the PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO YOURSELVES.
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
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