If you're using a back-to-back cable, the DCE will ALWAYS be the router with
the DCE side
of the cable.  If you're doing frame-relay, and using 1 router to be the
frame-relay switch, you'd
typically use the DCE side of the back-to-back on the frame-switch for all
routers connected
to the frame-relay switch.  You would then set your desired clock rate on
each serial interface.

""sanjay"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On the frame-relay switch router, just make sure you specify "frame-relay
> intf-type dce" command. On point to point serial connection between 2
> routers, you will need to setup clock rate on one of the routers. Which
ever
> router you put the clock rate, it becomes the DCE.
>
>
> ""CiScO"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 96i57s$bpl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:96i57s$bpl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Do I need to config the serial as a DCE or does it automatically become
a
> > DCE when I specify a clock rate?
> >
> > Will this type of connection work even if I'm not running Frame Relay,
for
> > instance setting up OSPF single area or multiple area, using ppp encap?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > ""John Neiberger"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > sa8c04a1.091@fsutil01">news:sa8c04a1.091@fsutil01...
> > > Each serial link needs to have some sort of clocking at the physical
> > > layer, regardless of your choice of datalink layer protocol.  In
> > > addition, each serial link is entirely separate from the others and
can
> > > have differing clockrates.
> > >
> > > Be sure that you set your clockrate on the DCE side only.  The DTE
side
> > > does not need to be specified because it is, by definition, listening
to
> > > the clock from the DCE.
> > >
> > > >>> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/15/01 4:09:37 PM >>>
> > > DCE to DTE no CSU/DSUs
> > >
> > > If I connect my routers via serial interfaces using a crossover serial
> > > cable
> > > , do I need to set a clock rate even if I'm running fame relay? If I
do
> > > need
> > > to use a clock rate do all the routers need to be set for the same
> > > clock
> > > rate?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
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