Right on Jim
""Jim McDowell"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> This archaic line of thought has been around for ages...in every
conceivable
> organization, since Ally Oop was a fetus...for example, "I had to walk
five
> miles to school every day when I was a kid", or "The old corps was
better".
>
> Some people are lucky enough to find an employer who will hire a
no-nothing
> and train them into a qualified network administrator.  Others
aren't...they
> have to work for certifications and then get employed in the networking
> field.  For most, having a certification just means they are trying to be
> better (better job, advancement, change careers, etc)....what can be wrong
> with that?  In the long run it is always your skill, dedication,
> perseverance, knowledge, attitude, etc., etc. that get you ahead, not the
> perceived value of your certification.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
> Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
>
>
> > I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
> >
> > I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
> > So up front I am not against certs.
> >
> > I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
> > Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
> > do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for
> > network folks, I have the opportunity to interview
> > these people to verify technical experience. I have
> > had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
> > could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
> >
> >
> > This scares me because I am also working hard toward
> > my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is
> > showing up more that these people are becoming "paper"
> > Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
> >
> > I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as
> > difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do
> > not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE
> > title to be one among thousands who also have it.
> >
> > That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> > try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP
> > and not become another MCSE program.
> >
> >
> >
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