Your an idiot, and that is his whole point. Grades and certs don't mean
Sh*t. It's experience that matters in the end. I whole heartedly agree that
it is becoming just as much a PAPER thing, as well as another way for the
big companies to generate revenue. On the other hand, leave it up to the
companies to hire these PAPER certified people. So they are as much to blame
as anyone else. Only tried and true vets, generally will be able to tell you
how to do something with confidence, and they aren't even certified
usually due to the workload not because they aren't smart).
So here's your pacifier..
Cheers
""Wilfredo M. Ruelos, Jr."" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
001901c0af46$551b5500$32ce64d4@ohno">news:001901c0af46$551b5500$32ce64d4@ohno...
> JUst because u think they dont know nothing, they really dont know
nothing
> . Can u post your grades here so that well see how smart u are? If u
think
> that you know more than people who are getting CCXX certified then why
> dont u hurry up and take the lab. Dont u think that these people should
be
> credited for what they have achieved. Cisco is not mystery anymore. More
> and more people will try to learn it. More and more people will produce
> learning aides, materials that will enables guys to learn as easily as
> possible. These guys dont have to worry about your opinions after they
> passed these exams. These guys may even passed the lab before you do.
And
> maybe you will come here complaining that Cisco made the lab so easy.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM
> Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
>
>
> >I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
> >
> >I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
> >So up front I am not against certs.
> >
> >I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
> >Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
> >do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for
> >network folks, I have the opportunity to interview
> >these people to verify technical experience. I have
> >had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
> >could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
> >
> >
> >This scares me because I am also working hard toward
> >my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is
> >showing up more that these people are becoming "paper"
> >Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
> >
> >I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as
> >difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do
> >not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE
> >title to be one among thousands who also have it.
> >
> >That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> >try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP
> >and not become another MCSE program.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
> >
> >_________________________________
> >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
> >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> _________________________________
> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
_________________________________
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]