I got an email asking for some help with info regarding studying for the
CCIE. Since it seemed to me that this stuff might be of use to alot of other
people I've gone ahead and posted my response. Hope you don't mind.
Karen
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On 4/15/2001 at 4:45 PM @yahoo.com wrote:
>i have passed ccna and wanna to appear for ccie directly.can u plz
>help me what to do study,from where and what r good links and good
>s/w for both ccnp and ccie.
>
*********** REPLY ***********
A CCIE friend of mine said that the difference between a CCIE and a CCNP is
the amount and quality of the experience. A CCNP may have as much or even
more knowledge and information, but a CCIE has experienced it and
understands what to do with it and what its good for. That being said, I'd
say that if you want to go for CCIE you should get as much experience as you
can until you know the basics in your sleep and understand the rest
thoroughly. I've included a list of URLs for assorted resources that may be
of use to you.
There are any number of books out there that have the information but it
will only take you so far. The groupstudy list archives and the Cisco CCIE
recommended reading list are a good place to start when putting together a
reading list. Computer Based Training (CBTs) and the Cisco CIMs are another
option but you should be warned that alot of CBTs have errors so you'll need
to double check all of the info with the Cisco web site and/or books anyway.
Also, CBTs and Cisco CIMs tend to be rather pricey. However, if you learn
best in an interactive environment, you can't do any better without actually
touching a router or switch.
Having a certain familiarity with the RFCs out there can be good if only so
that you know what information they contain and what they DON'T contain.
Knowing - and understanding, the OSI model is absolutely essential. If you
know the OSI model it can help you with the troubleshooting skills that
you'll need for the CCIE lab. Knowing what tasks each layer performs and
what protocols/technologies fall into each layer can help you narrow down a
fault faster than anything but actual experience. Understanding the basic
technologies involved is also essential. Knowing how a protocol works and
behaves is all very well and good, but understanding the physical technology
it's running over can tell you as much or more about the practical
limitations and behavior of the network. Needless to say, knowing how the
physical technologies work won't do you any good unless you know how the
protocols that run over them work.
The best way to learn is, of course, through hands on. There are a number of
router labs that are available online. Some are free, but most charge a fee
for access. Since the CCIE lab requires you to show a certain amount of
adeptness with entering in configs, you can get additional practice by
pretending that a text editer is a router command line and type in the
commands over and over until the commands are second nature. Be careful
though, you should verify that a command or series of commands actually
works the way you think it does before you drill it into memory through such
practice. Practice labs are a good way of getting the practice you need, but
you should also make a list of all the configuration tasks that should be
known by CCNAs and CCNPs and make that list the core of what you study.
These are the things that I meant by "basics" in the first paragraph. The
configuration cookbooks available on the Cisco website are a good source of
working configs that cover these basics.
Another hands-on type of practice is with the Cisco Documentation CD. Since
this CD is provided in the CCIE lab you should be thoroughly familiar with
what information is included in it and how that info is structured so that
when the time comes for the lab you can find the information you need in a
short period of time.
Before I paste in the list of URLs I'll leave you with one more thing. That
CCIE friend of mine gave me one bit of wisdom that I think that any network
person should know by heart... "Just because you can, doesn't mean you
should." A good corollary for this is Howard Berkowitz's "What is the
problem you are trying to solve?". It might not help you with the lab, but
its certainly worth knowing for your professional life/career. As for your
personal life... that really cool thing you want to implement may not be
practical, but it can ALWAYS be justified by applying the magic words "Its
for practice..."
Hope this helps and Good Luck!
Karen E Young
URLS:
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Note: This list isn't exhaustive and it certainly isn't organized. There's
alot more resources out there but this should get you started.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/rsblueprint.html
http://www.cisco.com/networkers/presentations/
http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw99_pres/index.htm
http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw00/pres/pdf2000.htm
http://www.cisco.com/networkers/au/presentations/
http://www.cisco.com/public/technotes/serv_tips.shtml
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html#34
http://www.ccbootcamp.com/books.htm
http://psyon.terrashare.com/networking/tytcpipi14d/index.html
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/netbook/
http://www.cisco.com/cpress/cc/td/cpress/ccie/ndcs798/
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/1.html
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/home/home.htm <--This is the same as the
Cisco Doc CD.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/index.htm
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/index.htm
http://www.protocols.com/protoc.shtml
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/
http://www.atmforum.com/
http://www.frforum.com/
http://www.mplsrc.com/
http://www.iec.org/tutorials/index.html
http://www.ttc.com/technical_resources/white_papers/index.html
http://www.sangoma.com/tutorial.htm
http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/Course/index.htm
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/knowledge/general/tutorial.htm
http://www.ieng.com/networkers/nw00/pres/3304/3304.htm
http://www.ieng.com/networkers/nw00/pres/3302/3302.htm
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_5_4/index.htm
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/
http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wanbu/8_5/switch/sys/
http://www.tbg.com/Public/wpapers.htm
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/iore/prodlit/537_pp.htm
http://www.groupstudy.com/cgi-bin/wilma/cisco
http://www.mentortech.com/learn/welcher/index.htm
http://www.firewallking.com/phpnuke/html/layout.php
http://www.realtimeworks.com/router/router.htm
http://www.sitamoht.com/
http://www.fatkid.com/
http://www.certificationzone.com/ (Current stuff is free, archive access
requires member$hip)
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