Karen,
Sounds like execellent advice. And thanks for the list of links. Another
incredible list of
links is at
http://iponeverything.net/cisco.shtml
which was created by Randy Benn (CCIE #1637). It's a huge list but VERY well
organized. Check
it out, everyone.
Karen E Young wrote:
> I got an email asking for some help with info regarding studying for the
> CCIE. Since it seemed to me that this stuff might be of use to alot of
other
> people I've gone ahead and posted my response. Hope you don't mind.
> Karen
> -----------------------------
>
> On 4/15/2001 at 4:45 PM @yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >i have passed ccna and wanna to appear for ccie directly.can u plz
> >help me what to do study,from where and what r good links and good
> >s/w for both ccnp and ccie.
> >
>
> *********** REPLY ***********
>
> A CCIE friend of mine said that the difference between a CCIE and a CCNP is
> the amount and quality of the experience. A CCNP may have as much or even
> more knowledge and information, but a CCIE has experienced it and
> understands what to do with it and what its good for. That being said, I'd
> say that if you want to go for CCIE you should get as much experience as
you
> can until you know the basics in your sleep and understand the rest
> thoroughly. I've included a list of URLs for assorted resources that may be
> of use to you.
>
> There are any number of books out there that have the information but it
> will only take you so far. The groupstudy list archives and the Cisco CCIE
> recommended reading list are a good place to start when putting together a
> reading list. Computer Based Training (CBTs) and the Cisco CIMs are another
> option but you should be warned that alot of CBTs have errors so you'll
need
> to double check all of the info with the Cisco web site and/or books
anyway.
> Also, CBTs and Cisco CIMs tend to be rather pricey. However, if you learn
> best in an interactive environment, you can't do any better without
actually
> touching a router or switch.
>
> Having a certain familiarity with the RFCs out there can be good if only so
> that you know what information they contain and what they DON'T contain.
> Knowing - and understanding, the OSI model is absolutely essential. If you
> know the OSI model it can help you with the troubleshooting skills that
> you'll need for the CCIE lab. Knowing what tasks each layer performs and
> what protocols/technologies fall into each layer can help you narrow down a
> fault faster than anything but actual experience. Understanding the basic
> technologies involved is also essential. Knowing how a protocol works and
> behaves is all very well and good, but understanding the physical
technology
> it's running over can tell you as much or more about the practical
> limitations and behavior of the network. Needless to say, knowing how the
> physical technologies work won't do you any good unless you know how the
> protocols that run over them work.
>
> The best way to learn is, of course, through hands on. There are a number
of
> router labs that are available online. Some are free, but most charge a fee
> for access. Since the CCIE lab requires you to show a certain amount of
> adeptness with entering in configs, you can get additional practice by
> pretending that a text editer is a router command line and type in the
> commands over and over until the commands are second nature. Be careful
> though, you should verify that a command or series of commands actually
> works the way you think it does before you drill it into memory through
such
> practice. Practice labs are a good way of getting the practice you need,
but
> you should also make a list of all the configuration tasks that should be
> known by CCNAs and CCNPs and make that list the core of what you study.
> These are the things that I meant by "basics" in the first paragraph. The
> configuration cookbooks available on the Cisco website are a good source of
> working configs that cover these basics.
>
> Another hands-on type of practice is with the Cisco Documentation CD. Since
> this CD is provided in the CCIE lab you should be thoroughly familiar with
> what information is included in it and how that info is structured so that
> when the time comes for the lab you can find the information you need in a
> short period of time.
>
> Before I paste in the list of URLs I'll leave you with one more thing. That
> CCIE friend of mine gave me one bit of wisdom that I think that any network
> person should know by heart... "Just because you can, doesn't mean you
> should." A good corollary for this is Howard Berkowitz's "What is the
> problem you are trying to solve?". It might not help you with the lab, but
> its certainly worth knowing for your professional life/career. As for your
> personal life... that really cool thing you want to implement may not be
> practical, but it can ALWAYS be justified by applying the magic words "Its
> for practice..."
>
> Hope this helps and Good Luck!
> Karen E Young
>
> URLS:
>
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> Note: This list isn't exhaustive and it certainly isn't organized. There's
> alot more resources out there but this should get you started.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/rsblueprint.html
> http://www.cisco.com/networkers/presentations/
> http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw99_pres/index.htm
> http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw00/pres/pdf2000.htm
> http://www.cisco.com/networkers/au/presentations/
> http://www.cisco.com/public/technotes/serv_tips.shtml
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html#34
> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/books.htm
> http://psyon.terrashare.com/networking/tytcpipi14d/index.html
> http://www.cs.columbia.edu/netbook/
> http://www.cisco.com/cpress/cc/td/cpress/ccie/ndcs798/
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/1.html
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/home/home.htm Cisco Doc CD.
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/index.htm
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/index.htm
> http://www.protocols.com/protoc.shtml
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/
> http://www.atmforum.com/
> http://www.frforum.com/
> http://www.mplsrc.com/
> http://www.iec.org/tutorials/index.html
> http://www.ttc.com/technical_resources/white_papers/index.html
> http://www.sangoma.com/tutorial.htm
> http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/Course/index.htm
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/knowledge/general/tutorial.htm
> http://www.ieng.com/networkers/nw00/pres/3304/3304.htm
> http://www.ieng.com/networkers/nw00/pres/3302/3302.htm
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_5_4/index.htm
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/
> http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wanbu/8_5/switch/sys/
> http://www.tbg.com/Public/wpapers.htm
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/iore/prodlit/537_pp.htm
> http://www.groupstudy.com/cgi-bin/wilma/cisco
> http://www.mentortech.com/learn/welcher/index.htm
> http://www.firewallking.com/phpnuke/html/layout.php
> http://www.realtimeworks.com/router/router.htm
> http://www.sitamoht.com/
> http://www.fatkid.com/
> http://www.certificationzone.com/ (Current stuff is free, archive access
> requires member$hip)
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