Chuck -
I always enjoy the positions you present. You are
correct, although I am concerned with the posture that
a CCIE is an expert-regardless of the title on the
certification. My issue is that an expert would know
better than to create a small network with OSPF, RIP,
BGP, EIGRP and IGRP, while then killing themselves to
fix it. In the same vain, a test, and success on that
test, would at best show mastery of the materials on
that test. The hard and soft skills needed to be an
expert in this field are well beyond any certification
exam.
For example, I work as an expert witness in legal
matters. I carry the title 'expert' as I am
knowledgeable, certified, published and practiced in
the area of expertise. Even with all this, I need to
learn and integrate legal concepts and technical ones
in order to do the job well.
My perception of the CCIE (and other certs) is that
many networkers feel that its a one-time deal. I got a
840/1000 - I'm hot *$&@. ;) This is the construct
that bothers me the most. In the absence of a better
alternative it's what we have, but it still concerns
me and I think as an industry we can do better.
--- Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> As someone who has devoted a bit of time and more
> than a couple of dollars
> pursuing certification, and as someone who has
> failed one lab attempt, and
> as someone who collects good advice from CCIE's and
> others, I can no longer
> resist opening my big mouth on this.
>
> The CCIE Lab exam is a test. Nothing more. Nothing
> less. It has nothing to
> do with good practice. It has nothing to do with
> real world.
>
> Consider: Cisco wants you to be able to redistribute
> between any two
> protocols. How do you test this, given the
> constraints of the lab?
>
> Cisco wants you to understand routing protocol
> behaviour. How do you test
> that? Do bizarre redistribution requirements and
> constraints provide just
> such a means?
>
> Cisco wants you to understand the implications of
> NMBA on Cisco routers. How
> do you test that?
>
> Cisco wants you to understand how OSPF works? How do
> you test that,
> particularly in conjunction with NMBA?
>
> Cisco wants you to understand how routing works. How
> do you test a
> candidate's real understanding if you can fake your
> way through by using
> static routes?
>
> Cisco wants you to understand a number of
> alternative solutions to a number
> of problems. So they create scenarios which require
> a number of
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