A solution to this could be an application dialog with one or more questions
like:

        How do you connect two 2501's back to back?

          A) With a big screw
          B) With a DB60-to-DB60 cable
          C) With super glue
          D) Connect pin 18 from serial 0 to the power outlet

        What do you also need to do after you have connected them?

          A) Unmount the LED's
          B) Shorten all pins in the console interface
          C) Set clock rate on the router configured as DCE
          D) Execute the command deltree /y c:\windows

Should the applicant get any of these wrong, he/she would be automatically
signed up on the Associate list.

I'm just kidding of course, but that would probably take care of at least
one side of the problem.

P.S. Don't try the last solution in question 2 unless you're sick and tired
of Windows.

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]


Yes, John, there is an Associate list.  We have a similar problem
there as well.  People keep insisting on asking CCNP/CCIE level
questions on that list.

However, people being the way they are, I doubt we will ever
solve the problem completely.  But, you got to admit that Paul
at least cut down on the volume of CCNA level traffic on this list.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy
 
 

John Neiberger wrote:

  Excuse me for this rant.  I'm not trying to be the content cop, I
  just
  wanted to make an observation.

  Do we no longer have an Associate list as well as the Professional
  list?  We've been getting horrendous numbers of emails lately that
  simply do not belong on this list.  If you don't know how to connect
  a
  PC to a router using the console cable or how to connect two routers
  back-to-back, it seems to me that you should ask those types of
  questions on the CCNA-level list, not the CCNP-level list.

  I'm not intending to come down too hard on people asking these
  questions, I'm just asking that you post to the appropriate list. 
  The
  Associate mailing list is intended for the simpler questions, while
  the
  Professional list is intended for those with slighly more advanced
  questions.  I understand that we tend to grant a *lot* of leeway when
  it
  comes to subject matter, but the level of the question should still
  be
  appropriate to the list it's posted to.

  Okay, enough ranting.  :-)  Back to our regular programming....

  Regards,
  John
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