I feel your pain, but keep this all in perspective.  You will 
ultimately be able to get some form of high speed data over 
cable access.  Where I live here in the PRNV( People's Republik 
of Northern Virginia), I am within 20 miles of five of the 
world's largest ISPs.  The best access I can get is a 56k 
dialup line.  //RANT OVER//

Now, regarding the less than tactful "engineer" who is trying 
desperately hard not to help you, it would appear that he is in 
over his head.  It may be useful to do a little troubleshooting 
on your own.

For example, you are given a reasonable indication that this 
cable operator favors using the low end addresses for a gateway 
on a particular segment.  The issue is what segment are you 
actually on?  Give the scope information you provided, here are 
some of the possibilities:

24.65.134.1 to 24.65.135.254  (assume 24.65.134.1 is the 
gateway).  From your router, you will need to temporarily go 
back to hard coded IP addresses.  Set your IP address to 
24.65.134.40 and a subnet mask of 255.255.254.0 and see if you 
can reach your gateway(I can from my house - if it's yours).  
If the answer is yes, you can reach it as well, then this can 
be communicated to the fine staff at your local cable 
operator.  If OTOH, you cannot reach that gateway, you are 
probably on another IP subnet.  

The logical next choice would definitely be to try and reach 
24.65.142.1.  The problem is that your IP addr is not from that 
subnet.  As much as I hate to suggest this, go ahead and hard 
code on your router an IP addr from the subnet this gateway is 
from(choices are 24.65.142.2 through 24.65.143.254)  I would 
probably go with a high value near the end of the range (say 
24.65.143.241).  See if you are now able to reach the gateway.  
One of these two methods will work (most likely the first 
method).

Once you are clear exactly what subnet you are on, I suspect 
you could probably hard code the values in your router until 
somebody that has a brain can fix the DHCP server.  
Additionally, you will also need to track down the other DHCP 
options that are handed out.  When I tested this a little while 
back, I believe that the DHCP client on the router did not 
necessarily accept all options that were passed from the DHCP 
server.  Probably the most important ones you will need are the 
DNS servers.  Once you have the correct info, you then will 
have all the necessary parameters to program your DHCP server 
on your private network for the hosts in your home.

There is one other tactic you may want to use as well.  If push 
comes to shove and they absolutely refuse to deal with you and 
your cisco router, then go to one of your PCs and get the MAC 
address from the NIC card.  Go to the router interface facing 
the cable modem and enter the following command on that 
interface:

router(config)#int e0
router(config-if)#mac-address (your PC's MAC addr)
router(config-if)#shut
router(config-if)#no shut
router(config-if)#end

When they call back and attempt to troubleshoot, play along 
with them.  When they tell you to look at "winipcfg", you know 
where to go on your router to get the info that you need.  
Sometimes, you need to get into the head of the person you are 
dealing with and put it in terms they can understand.

Hang in there :-)  Let us know if you achieve victory.

v/r,

Paul Werner



> Well, I've found the IOS that runs DHCP client, and I've 
found the
> command.
> I've just spent the past 4 hours trying to resolve why I'm 
getting
> encapsulation failure messages after the DHCP Offer is made 
from the
> service
> provider (Shaw @ Home) and have discovered the following:
> 
> My IP Address: 24.65.134.40
> Subnet Mask:  255.255.254.0
> Gateway:       24.65.142.1
> 
> Anyone see a problem?
> 
> If you do, then you're one up on Shaw Cable's technical 
support.  They
> won't
> look at the problem because it's a Cisco router at the other 
end--an
> unsupported device.  But the device isn't the problem--their 
scope
> configuration is.
> 
> No, I can't get any information on who it is that I'm 
speaking with
> other
> than his name is Darren.
> 
> No, I can't speak to a supervisor.
> 
> And no, I can't continue talking either because I've just 
been hung up
> on.
> 
> What excellent customer service.  Just what exactly is 
technical support
> for?
> 
> So if anyone out there knows anyone at Shaw, they might want 
to mention
> their problem to them.  And no, I'm not just talking about 
their
> interpersonal skills.
> 
> So thanks to everyone who tried to help me get this going...

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