Gareth, your message and Priscilla's are the most sensible posts I have
seen on this topic.

Good luck with the CIT.

I should keep my mouth shut now...

Except... there are reports here of Islamic community groups having their
buildings vandalised and hate messages left on their phones, of women
wearing veils being spat at, of Muslim children on a school bus being
attacked with stones and bottles.  From news reports I know this is also
happening in other countries.
This really saddens me.  Does anyone seriously think that these individuals
had anything to do with the terrorists, or that they support the
terrorist's actions?
I hope everyone focusses on those who organised the terrorism (whoever that
may be), not those who are thought to share the same ethnic background, the
same religion, or even the same dress sense.  Indiscriminate revenge is
exactly what the terrorists did - it is not what the response to terrorism
should be.

JMcL
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He probably wouldn't.
I think we would take on the chin, the same criticism that was aimed in
your
direction. Nobody is perfect.
As a Brit who has served in Ireland along side friends shot down by
terrorists, I still had a feeling of guilt that we had caused the problems
in the first place. That doesn't mean I sympathised with the terrorists.
The Brit's have caused their share of suffering over the years, and like
most European countries, notably Germany, are beginning to be taught, from
a
young age, more about our history with less bias.
I would say that a few US members of the Group have 'visited' other
countries in the last 30 years or so and been in some doubt whether they
are
doing the 'Right Thing'.

We undoubtedly still don't get the whole truth about things going on in the
world today.
Some of the sights I saw during the Gulf war made me more sympathetic to
other nations. Thousands of Iraqi's were pushed into a war by their
dictator, having been brainwashed and facing torture or death if they
didn't
fight, with no weapons, no training, no food, no ammunition, no
communications. We were greeted like liberators by the begging,
surrendering
Iraqi's. When you see the family photographs in the wiped out bunkers it
brings it home.
Right/Wrong is a close call sometimes and we do tend to pigeon hole entire
nations when most of the nation have as much (or probably less) control
over
their nations policies as you or I.

Something needs to be done. I really don't know whether the Gung-Ho
approach
will do it. The terrorists immediately become Martyrs and rally their
nation.
That's probably the sole reason that Saddam Hussein is still around today.

I have no answers,




Which is especially unfortunate as I have a CIT exam in 9 hours.



Our British hearts go out to the people of the US during these terrible
times.
You'll pull through, you always do.







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> I am curious if our non-American friend would attempt to defend the
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> government and their history of "foriegn
> policy"?
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