There is DTE/DCE on both the physical level and the Frame-Relay level. So
configure the link with a clock speed on the end that has the DCE end of the
cable. Then configure the frame relay command as you have given below. The
layer two DCE end does not have to be the layer one DCE end. Experiment to
prove it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Christofi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: DCE/DTE serial null cable [7:20715]
> 
> 
> Hey everybody,
> Have 2 2524's running in my lab, with the 60 pin
> DTE/DTE cable connecting the 2 serial ports, no
> DSU/CSU.  How do I config one as the DTE and one as
> the DCE, with IOS 11.1, running frame-relay
> 
> is the command:  frame-relay intf-type dce   
> enough?
> 
> I get a lot of interface resets/carrier transitions
> take a look:
> 
> Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set, keepalive
> set (10 sec)
>   LMI enq sent  0, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0
>   LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0,
> DCE LMI down
>   LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DCE
>   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0,
> interface broadcasts 0
>   Last input never, output never, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
>   Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output
> drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
>   Output queue: 0/64/0 (size/threshold/drops)
>      Conversations  0/1 (active/max active)
>      Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max
> allocated)
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>      0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
>      Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants
>      0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0
> ignored, 0 abort
>      2 packets output, 291 bytes, 0 underruns
>      0 output errors, 0 collisions, 42 interface
> resets
>      0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers
> swapped out
>      86 carrier transitions
>      DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=up
> thanks
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
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