No we all use ms, including Wendel Odom.

""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> Actually, that web page is correct.  Tc = Bc/CIR, and the
> answer is in seconds.  If you get an answer such as .125, that
> is 1/8th of a second, or 125ms.
>
> At work we use a Bc of 5120 on 512k links.  5120/512000 = .010,
> or 10ms, which is the recommended interval.  It all depends on
> what units you're using, as well.  Perhaps he is using
> different units of measurement.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
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> ---- On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Steven A. Ridder ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>
> > I believe the true calculation for the interval (Tc) is Bc=CIR
> (Tc/1000).
> > This web page over-simplifies it.  I have read in varoius
> sources
> > (Intergrating Voice and Data Network, and from Wendel Odom
> himself, that
> > it's actually the above calculation.  I have other problem
> wih CCO web
> > pages
> > also, especially Dialer Watch, CBAC, etc.  I think Cisco is
> too big to
> > manage :)
> >
> >
> > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > > I only see two examples on that page that are different.
> The first is
> > > on a 56k link, Bc=1000 and CIR=56000.  Bc/CIR = .0178, or
> basically
> > > 18ms.  I know that's higher than the recommended 10ms, but
> perhaps
> > there
> > > are drawbacks to lowering the Bc below 1000 that I'm not
> aware of.
> > >
> > > The other example is on a 256k link.  Bc = 1000, CIR =
> 256000, so
> > > Bc/CIR = .004, or 4ms.  This will set your Tc to the
> minimum of 10ms,
> > > IIRC.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John
> > >
> > > >>> "Steven A. Ridder"  12/18/01 5:22:56 PM >>>
> > > The bc info for the Frame-Relay traffic shaping info on
> that page is
> > > wrong.
> > > One should always target Bc to get a Tc of 10ms, but the
> config
> > > examples are
> > > more like a Bc of 36.4.  So you have the serialization
> delay time at
> > > 36.4,
> > > but optimally you want 10ms.  The packets will be going out
> at 10ms
> > (or
> > > less
> > > cause fragmentation ias correct) but the time interval the
> router uses
> > > is at
> > > 36.4ms.
> > > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > > > Here is another link that deals with WAN QoS, including
> some items
> > > that
> > > > might not occur to you such as sizing the interface
> transmit ring.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/av
> vidqos/qoswa
> > >
> > > n.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > > John
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