The config for the bottom of this page is correct for FRF.12

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voice-qos/voip-ov-fr-qos.html#first

Plus we're arguing about the same thing.  If Tc=Bc/Cir, or Bc=CIR(Tc/1000)
and we have

Cir=256000
Tc=10ms
Bc=?

With your formula, you get 2560 and with mine you get 2560.  Same thing.
Just my original post is never use a blanket number to get Bc, cause the
first one gave a large Tc.

""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
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> No we all use ms, including Wendel Odom.
>
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > Actually, that web page is correct.  Tc = Bc/CIR, and the
> > answer is in seconds.  If you get an answer such as .125, that
> > is 1/8th of a second, or 125ms.
> >
> > At work we use a Bc of 5120 on 512k links.  5120/512000 = .010,
> > or 10ms, which is the recommended interval.  It all depends on
> > what units you're using, as well.  Perhaps he is using
> > different units of measurement.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________
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> >
> > ---- On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Steven A. Ridder ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I believe the true calculation for the interval (Tc) is Bc=CIR
> > (Tc/1000).
> > > This web page over-simplifies it.  I have read in varoius
> > sources
> > > (Intergrating Voice and Data Network, and from Wendel Odom
> > himself, that
> > > it's actually the above calculation.  I have other problem
> > wih CCO web
> > > pages
> > > also, especially Dialer Watch, CBAC, etc.  I think Cisco is
> > too big to
> > > manage :)
> > >
> > >
> > > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > > > I only see two examples on that page that are different.
> > The first is
> > > > on a 56k link, Bc=1000 and CIR=56000.  Bc/CIR = .0178, or
> > basically
> > > > 18ms.  I know that's higher than the recommended 10ms, but
> > perhaps
> > > there
> > > > are drawbacks to lowering the Bc below 1000 that I'm not
> > aware of.
> > > >
> > > > The other example is on a 256k link.  Bc = 1000, CIR =
> > 256000, so
> > > > Bc/CIR = .004, or 4ms.  This will set your Tc to the
> > minimum of 10ms,
> > > > IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > >>> "Steven A. Ridder"  12/18/01 5:22:56 PM >>>
> > > > The bc info for the Frame-Relay traffic shaping info on
> > that page is
> > > > wrong.
> > > > One should always target Bc to get a Tc of 10ms, but the
> > config
> > > > examples are
> > > > more like a Bc of 36.4.  So you have the serialization
> > delay time at
> > > > 36.4,
> > > > but optimally you want 10ms.  The packets will be going out
> > at 10ms
> > > (or
> > > > less
> > > > cause fragmentation ias correct) but the time interval the
> > router uses
> > > > is at
> > > > 36.4ms.
> > > > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Here is another link that deals with WAN QoS, including
> > some items
> > > > that
> > > > > might not occur to you such as sizing the interface
> > transmit ring.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/av
> > vidqos/qoswa
> > > >
> > > > n.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH,
> > > > > John
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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