Jose;
We have no information on the model of Mac and the version of operating
system on it. Older 7200s had garbage built-in ethernet ports. The solution
was to buy an add-on NIC.
So are the computers that are having problems in any way different from the
ones that work? What model are they and what OS are they running?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Appletalk Help [7:34079]
> 
> 
> Are the AppleTalk nodes in the same hub as the router? Are 
> you sure there's 
> not a switch in the way somewhere? What's your topology?
> 
> The problem I described is so common (just ask any Apple SE), 
> that I'm 
> still sticking to it as my theory. It's all I have to go on. 
> My crystal 
> ball crashed.
> 
> Try using Cisco's troubleshooting method:
> 
> 0. Document your network topology and protocols.
> 1. Define the problem.
> 2. Gather facts.
> 3. Consider possibilities.
> 4. Create an action plan.
> 5. Implement the action plan.
> 6. Observe the results.
> 7. Do problem symptoms stop?
> 
> If no, go back to 4 or possibly to 2.
> If yes, problem resolved, document the facts.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 11:50 AM 2/6/02, Quezada, Jose L wrote:
> >Hi Priscilla,
> >         Thank you very much for the tips. Unfortunately, 
> they did not work.
> >The Macintoshes are actually connected to a hub. Any other ideas.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >Joe Quezada
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:24 PM
> >To: Quezada, Jose L; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Appletalk Help [7:34079]
> >
> >
> >Are the AppleTalk devices on a switch? This smells like a 
> portfast problem.
> >Enable portfast on the switch ports, and I suspect the 
> problem will go away.
> >
> >I think that what's happening is that when the newly booted AppleTalk
> >stations send their ZIPGetNetInfo packet to find out the 
> actual network
> >number(s) and zone(s) for the segment, the switch is not yet 
> forwarding
> >their packets. So they don't get through to the router. This 
> causes the
> >stations to think they are on a non-routed network and to 
> stay with their
> >startup network number in the 65,280-65,534 range.
> >
> >Later the stations send other broadcasts and the router sees 
> them and adds
> >them to its ARP cache.
> >
> >As you may know already, a switch can take a couple minutes to start
> >forwarding traffic as it works on pruning the topology into 
> a spanning
> >tree. New Macintoshes boot way faster than this and can be 
> done with their
> >initialization by the time the switch decides to forward 
> their traffic. The
> >solution is to configure portfast (or the set port host 
> macro on high-end
> >switches). These configurations cause the switch to start forwarding
> >traffic immediately.
> >
> >HTH
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >
> >At 12:24 PM 2/1/02, Quezada, Jose L wrote:
> > >Hello all,
> > >         Please excuse my ignorance with Appletalk. We 
> currently have a
> > >problem with some nodes running Appletalk. In the apple 
> arp table of our
> > >router, they show up with an address such as  65280.128. 
> My understanding
> >is
> > >that when a node boots up, it is assigned a temporary 
> network address from
> > >the range of 65280 to 65534. The router will then reply 
> with a valid cable
> > >range. The fact that this network address shows up in the 
> arp table tells
> >me
> > >that the router can see the node. If that is the case, 
> what can I check to
> > >find out why the router is not sending the valid cable 
> range. We have
> other
> > >nodes on the same network which are working correctly. We 
> have also move
> >the
> > >problem nodes to another network and they work properly. 
> What else can I
> > >check? What tests can I do?
> > >
> > >Any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >Joe Quezada
> > >Electronic Data Systems
> > >48 Walter Jones Blvd.
> > >El Paso, TX 79906
> > >Phone: 915.783.7159 (8.955)
> > >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >________________________
> >
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >http://www.priscilla.com
> ________________________
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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