I have a pair of CS11152 (former arrowpoints) and they've been flaky. I do
not recommend them. Not sure about coyotepoint.


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> Coyotepoint was the first server load balancing device I had ever
> heard of outside of your basic LSNAT configuration (I think Cisco
> calls it NAT load-sharing or something, but there is an RFC also).
>
> However, I've never actually seen one in production on any
> network.  Around 1997-8 the Cisco Local Director was the
> only box I saw, and most people hated them.  Then, the F5
> Big/IP box became popular (and it still sort of is).  A whole
> bunch of people started entering the market space of SLB
> and Global Load-Balancing.  In the past few years, companies
> like Arrowpoint and Alteon got bought by Cisco and Nortel.
> Now you even have places like Akamai doing GLB for places
> like Yahoo.
>
> After I've read the RFC's, and patents like US6185598,
> US108703, and US6052718, and worked with SLB and
> GLB for years, I've finally come to a few conclusions:
>
> A) The SLB/GLB marketing and focus is silicon snake oil
> B) Just like the computer security industry, "[it's] like a carnival game,
> where people throw ducks at balloons, and nothing is as it seems"
> C) It really depends on *your* environment.  Just as there are
> millions of options for web servers and web programming languages
> (e.g. .NET, J2EE, Apache+PHP+MySQL, Apache+mod_perl, MS NT4
> IIS/ISAPI, WebSphere vs. Weblogic, Zeus, Netscape, Xitami, etc etc),
> there are millions of options for SLB and GLB (even deciding between
> the two is impossible).
> D) Even outside of products and software, you have your own organization.
> How the coders build web pages.  How the HTML is done.  Etc.  If you
> don't have any dynamic content.  If you are completely dynamic content and
> everything besides the main page is somewhere under /cgi-bin/.  These are
> all organizational issues that are different with every company.
Depending
> on your setup, a different product may fit your needs differently.
> E) SLB was grown out of the need for more bandwidth being pushed out
> to the Internet by machines in the $100 to $5000 price range.  These
> machines at the time were 486's and no ubiquitous Fast or Gigabit
Ethernet.
> For a high-end Unix box with Fast Ethernet, you were looking at $30,000
> back then (at least).
> F) Now, you can buy a Titanium Powerbook with Gigabit Ethernet running
> Mach+BSD (MacOS X) for like $2000.  You can get 2x CPU 1U machines
> running FreeBSD or Linux capable of pushing >2k pps for under $3000.
> The need for SLB may have changed over the years due to the hardware
> catching up to the bandwidth needs.
>
> The SLB/GLB market is so confusing, probably "nobody" has it figured out.
>
> However, I can recommend one box today that stands above the others, and
> the only one I'd like to see in any production network.  The guys at
Radware
> have made some significant advancements in the way SLB and GLB are done.
> Their WSD and entire line of products are much better than any of the
> alternatives, and it is much more versatile for any real production
> environment.
> This is just my opinion, but I suggest you fully research the SLB/GLB
> industry before making your decision.
>
> -dre
>
> ""Brian Zeitz""  wrote in message
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> > I hope this is not too far off topic, but has anyone ever used this
> > companies load balancers or products or have any feedback on it.
> >
> >
> >
> >  http://www.coyotepoint.com
> >
> >
> >
> > One thing I noticed is that it only has 1 port in, and one out. Is that
> > not normal? I have used Alteon Before, any feedback would be helpful.




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