Yous just answered your own question (the tech economy is bad-- very bad),
and many people face or have faced the same "chicken and egg" problem.

I have often wondered the same thing, about there being almost no ads for
junior network engineers, and very few for midl-levels, even.  I can
speculate about the possible answers, but I not the old pro, so I could
wrong.

I am convinced that almost no one advertises for junior network engineer
positions.  They advertise for seniors and then hire the juniors from some
of the folks who applied for the senior positions with too little
experience.  Perhaps they go to some local provider of contract labor (like
Teksystems in our area), and hire contract folks who may not even accrue
vaction time until they are hired permanently.  I would not be surprised if
a few juniors are folks that the seniors recruit from their acquaintances.

I wonder if companies don't want the public to get the idea that they employ
anything but seasoned professionals with 5+ years experience working for
them.


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> I live in the US.  I have been casually looking for a
> new job while I have been working on my CCDP and
> CSS-1.  I already have the CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, CNE, Unix
> experience,  a little router experience, VPN
> conncentrator 3005, hands on switch and PIX
> experience.  I have put all this on my resume.  Am I
> missing some certification or training?
>
> It seems like all the Cisco related jobs require 5+
> years of hands on experience or a CCIE.  This creates
> a chicken and the egg problem for me.  I want to get
> more hands on experience than my current job offers to
> prepare for the CCIE, but in order to get the
> experience you need to be a CCIE.  I realize the
> economy isn't very good right now, but where are the
> junior level Cisco positions?  How did the current
> CCIEs become CCIEs?
>
> How do I get a job that works with Cisco products,
> without alot of experience or a CCIE?
>
> Just Frustrated...
>
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