At 04:20 AM 5/10/02, Kenny Smith wrote:
>sorry me again, I think I know why my router can't query the DNS. The reason
>is when I do a extended ping as follow, it tried to query the DNS server for
>real IP with the source address of the serial0 (default) before we can
>specify to use ethernet0 as the source address. And ISP never advertise
>route for the serial link. That's why I can't query the DNS.  How do you
>think??

I think that's it. Ping should let you specify the source first! You could 
report that to Cisco.

Priscilla


> >2500new#ping
> >Protocol [ip]:
> >Target IP address: www.channelnewsasia.com
> >Translating "www.channelnewsasia.com"...domain server (203.116.1.93)
> >(203.116.254.150)
> >
> >% Bad IP address
>
> >From: "Kenny Smith"
> >Reply-To: "Kenny Smith"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: why I can't use normal ping in new router??? [7:43709]
> >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 02:58:45 -0400
> >
> >Thanks.. Priscilla.. I understamd what you mean about the route issue and
I
> >think it is right.   But I have one more issue.  That's the DNS.  I
> >tried to test whether new DNS is working or not with the following. But it
> >always give me Bad IP address, but the DNS IP is proven to be working when
> >we put it to our proxy.  Beside, when I do the same thing in my old
router,
> >it did get translated.  Why my new router DNS can't resolve my URL while
> >the
> >DNS is proven to be to working fine??
> >
> >2500new#ping
> >Protocol [ip]:
> >Target IP address: www.channelnewsasia.com
> >Translating "www.channelnewsasia.com"...domain server (203.116.1.93)
> >(203.116.254.150)
> >
> >% Bad IP address
> >
> >2500old#ping
> >Protocol [ip]:
> >Target IP address: www.channelnewsasia.com
> >Translating "www.channelnewsasia.com"...domain server (210.80.58.205) [OK]
> >
> >Repeat count [5]:
> >Datagram size [100]:
> >Timeout in seconds [2]:
> >Extended commands [n]:
> >Sweep range of sizes [n]:
> >Type escape sequence to abort.
> >Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 202.172.227.114, timeout is 2 seconds:
> >!!.!!
> >Success rate is 80 percent (4/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 196/253/324 ms
> >
> >
> > >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> > >Reply-To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: why I can't use normal ping in new router??? [7:43709]
> > >Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 17:17:19 -0400
> > >
> > >Would upgrading solve his problem?
> > >
> > >At 03:00 PM 5/9/02, Larry Letterman wrote:
> > > >I didn't say 10.3 would not handle it, did I...I just said to update
> >the
> > > >ios because its old...
> > > >
> > > >Larry Letterman
> > > >Cisco Systems
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:37 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: why I can't use normal ping in new router??? [7:43709]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > At 03:57 AM 5/9/02, Larry Letterman wrote:
> > > > > >Update the IOS to something modern...
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you work for TAC? Cisco IOS 10.3 could certainly handle ping
just
> > >fine.
> > > > > ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a guess. Notice that the serial link has a subnet mask of
> > > > > 255.255.255.252. This is a subnet mask that you typically see on a
> > > > > point-to-point link with just two devices on it (the routers at
> >either
> > > > > end). The link has no purpose other than to connect the customer's
> >LAN
> > >to
> > > > > the ISP. Hence, there's no reason for the ISP to advertise a route
> >to
> > >that
> > > > > point-to-point 100.20.90.56/30 network. In fact, for security
> >reasons,
> > > >it's
> > > > > probably a good idea to make sure there is not a route to this
> > >dedicated
> > > > > network that has just two memebers, the two router interfaces.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, this means that there's no way for a ping reply to get back to
> >the
> > > > > 100.20.90.58 address.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, the LAN is addressed with a network number and subnet mask
that
> > >you
> > > > > might see used for a typical small customer (60.80.200.113
> > > > > 255.255.255.240). Undoubtedly, there are no problems getting back
to
> > >this
> > > > > LAN. The fact that he can surf the Web proves that point.
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Larry Letterman
> > > > > >Cisco Systems
> > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Kenny Smith"
> > > > > >To:
> > > > > >Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:20 AM
> > > > > >Subject: RE: why I can't use normal ping in new router???
[7:43709]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Below is my config...why you think there is a route missing
> > >somewhere,
> > > >as
> > > > > >I
> > > > > > > can still use extended ping to ping and I can use it to surf
net
> > >as
> > > > > >normal.
> > > > > > > The only thing that I can't do is to normal ping from here..
> >What
> > > >should
> > > > > >me
> > > > > > > the problem? It is related to the new ISP?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2500new#sh conf
> > > > > > > Using 1561 out of 32762 bytes
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > version 10.3
> > > > > > > no service finger
> > > > > > > service password-encryption
> > > > > > > no service udp-small-servers
> > > > > > > no service tcp-small-servers
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > hostname 2500new
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > enable secret xxxxxx
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > ip subnet-zero
> > > > > > > no ip source-route
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > interface Ethernet0
> > > > > > > description To Office Ethernet
> > > > > > > ip address 60.80.200.113 255.255.255.240
> > > > > > > no ip directed-broadcast
> > > > > > > ip accounting output-packets
> > > > > > > ip route-cache same-interface
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > interface Serial0
> > > > > > > description XXX
> > > > > > > ip address 100.20.90.58 255.255.255.252
> > > > > > > no ip directed-broadcast
> > > > > > > ip accounting output-packets
> > > > > > > bandwidth 512
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > interface Serial1
> > > > > > > no ip address
> > > > > > > shutdown
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > ip name-server 203.116.1.78
> > > > > > > ip name-server 203.116.1.94
> > > > > > > ip classless
> > > > > > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 100.20.90.57
> > > > > > > tftp-server flash \tftpboot\IGS-IN-L.BIN
> > > > > > > snmp-server community public RO
> > > > > > > banner exec ^C
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Router name:   2500new
> > > > > > >    Platform:   Cisco 2500
> > > > > > >    Location:   Equant
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ^C
> > > > > > > banner login ^C
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Unauthorised access is prohibited and may lead to
> > > > > > > legal or disciplinary action being taken against you
> > > > > > > ^C
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > line con 0
> > > > > > > line aux 0
> > > > > > > transport input all
> > > > > > > line vty 0
> > > > > > > exec-timeout 15 0
> > > > > > > password 7 XXXXXXXX
> > > > > > > login
> > > > > > > length 0
> > > > > > > line vty 1
> > > > > > > exec-timeout 0 0
> > > > > > > password 7 XXXXXXX
> > > > > > > login
> > > > > > > line vty 2 4
> > > > > > > password 7 XXXXXXX
> > > > > > > login
> > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > end
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Andrew Larkins
> > > > > > > >To: Kenny Smith , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: why I can't use normal ping in new router???
> > >[7:43709]
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 08:53:34 +0200
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >my guess is that there is a route missing somewhere here from
> > >when
> > > >you
> > > > > > > >migrated to the new unit. Just to make sure, plse post the
> > >configs
> > > >and
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > >can see.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >From: Kenny Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > >Sent: 09 May 2002 07:54
> > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >Subject: why I can't use normal ping in new router???
[7:43709]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >May I know why I have to use extended ping/traceroute to ping
> > >from
> > >my
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > >router (2500new) and I have to specify extended command3yes,
> >and
> > > >source
> > > > > > > >address is ethernet0 (serial0 don!&t work).  If I just use
ping
> > > > > > > >202.172.227.114. it doesn!&t works.  Why???   And I can use
> > >!'ping
> > > > > > > >202.172.227.114!( to ping from my old router (2500old) !Vshown
> > >below.
> > > > > > > >Why???  Why I can only use extended ping and specify
ethernet0.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >2500new#ping
> > > > > > > >Protocol [ip]:
> > > > > > > >Target IP address: 202.172.227.114
> > > > > > > >Repeat count [5]:
> > > > > > > >Datagram size [100]:
> > > > > > > >Timeout in seconds [2]:
> > > > > > > >Extended commands [n]: y
> > > > > > > >Source address: ethernet0
> > > > > > > >Type of service [0]:
> > > > > > > >Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
> > > > > > > >Data pattern [0xABCD]:
> > > > > > > >Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
> > > > > > > >Sweep range of sizes [n]:
> > > > > > > >Type escape sequence to abort.
> > > > > > > >Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 202.172.227.114, timeout is
2
> > > >seconds:
> > > > > > > >!!!!!
> > > > > > > >Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =
> > >16/22/40
> > > >ms
> > > > > > > >2500new#
> > > > > > > >2500new#ping 202.172.227.114
> > > > > > > >Type escape sequence to abort.
> > > > > > > >Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 202.172.227.114, timeout is
2
> > > >seconds:
> > > > > > > >.....
> > > > > > > >Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
> > > > > > > >2500new#
> > > > > > > >2500new#
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >2500old#ping 202.172.227.114
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Type escape sequence to abort.
> > > > > > > >Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 202.172.227.114, timeout is
2
> > > >seconds:
> > > > > > > >!!!!!
> > > > > > > >Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =
> > > >44/171/376
> > > > > ms
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >2500old#
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > > > http://www.priscilla.com
> > >________________________
> > >
> > >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > >http://www.priscilla.com
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