Yeah I do think it will be paper because with the Boson, Lammle, and other
vendor books along with Cisco Press suddenly every one will just get it
and it will be harder to distinguish who really knows it or not.
I know people will get it yes but I don't want it to be a paper cert like
some people have CCNP/DPs and don't know anything about OSPF or VLANS.
Just gets me sad. Part of the reason I got this cert last year was
because there weren't any boson or study aides yet. It was a better test
that way. Of course I was already doing security so that is besides the
point. Finally I thought I could have a more unique Cisco cert without
killing myself ie CCIE.
I'm not the only one with it. Here in Japan, my boss was first and my
current co-worker was second. Perhaps I was number 10 or something. (I
was the 5th CISSP here). The problem is that one of these guys doesn't
know how to do things like ACLs! I got to help him out with it and he
can't configure Cisco IDS. Just makes me sad. At least I get paid
more... :-)
What can I say? I don't like it when people can just read a book and pass
the test and they don't know "conf t". You defination of a paper cert is
the same as mine. No offensive taken. I just think that if you want to
do CSS1 you should be using PIXs, VPNs, and IDSs just like when I got the
CCNP I was on 7200/3600/2600 6509/5xxx/2948s daily.
Theo
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I think that's a pretty pessimistic outlook for cert....... wow... if a
book
coming out convinces you all of a sudden your cert will be "paper", .....
wow...
I can't explain it, but that comment really bums me out....... I can't
believe all of this talk about "paper" this and "paper" that...... geez, a
book comes out for a cert and already someone (that has the damn cert) is
already calling it paper.......
I guess I've always been under the impression that the PERSON that was
"shoddily" certified (studied to pass a test instead of learning the
material) was a "paper" whatever.... i.e. someone that passed the CCNA
just
by sheer memorization after barrelling thru practice exams was a "paper
CCNA" as opposed to someone who actually learned all of the
information.....
Seriously, it sounds to me like your concern isn't "paper" anything, it's
that you won't be the only one with CSS1/CCIP or whatever....... I have
to
ask "Did you really think that you'd be the 'only' one with that
certification forever?"
I guess the reason your comment bums me out is because you're implying
that
just because there are study materials for a book (especially one from
Sybex
with the Lammle name on it) that it will be so common that you "can get a
CSS! with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11"..... Do you really think
that
one book will have that much of an impact?
I appreciate you feelings, and I didn't intend for this post to be an
"attack" on you.... I guess I'm just stunned that your outlook for the
value
of a cert could be affected by just one book so much.....
Mike W.
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> Man this bums me out.
>
> Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.
>
> Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper
> cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(
>
> Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
> study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this
> book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1
with
> my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.
>
> Booo!
>
> Theo
>
> hmmm forensics.....and I already have training scheduled and materials
> here....hummmmm........
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