According to CCIE exam materials, the *only* time the serial will show
down/down is when there is NO serial cable or a bad serial cable connected.
So even if you have a misconfigured framing method, you should at least see
up/down.....

Mike W.

"Bob Timmons"  wrote in message
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> I can't say I've ever seen a down/up condition.  Up/Down perhaps.
>
> I'm sure there are exceptions, but it's my belief that the router doesn't
> care about encoding, but rather a layer-1 connection to the dce/dte
device.
> If the router can 'talk' to the device on the other end of the cable, you
> should get an up/x condition, where x would depend on the csu/dsu
condition
> of the line.
>
> I don't have a csu handy, otherwise I'd check that right now.  I can do
that
> tomorrow morning (10:30 pm est here), but you may have an answer prior to
> that...
>
>
> > Hi Priscilla,
> >
> > I have actually had this scenario (multiple times), but due to the
Telco's
> > misconfiguration.
> > Specifically we were expecting b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I can't confirm
> > which was configured incorrectly, but I can confirm that going through
> > all of the different combinations available at the router you will
> > get all combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and
> down/down).
> >
> > I can also confirm, you will not establish connectivity, regardless. I
> > believe
> > either b8zs/esf or sf/ami are the only valid combinations. At least that
> is
> > all I've
> > ever worked with.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > -TV
> >
> >
> > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> > > Hi Group Study,
> > >
> > > While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
> > > questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
> > >
> > > A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good
V.35
> > > cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has
> been
> > > misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
> > > doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
> > CSU/DSU
> > > that is external to the router, not one that is built into the
router.)
> > >
> > > Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
> > >
> > > And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
> > > misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
> > >
> > > If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have
> read
> > > the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > ________________________
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > http://www.priscilla.com




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