At 11:11 PM -0400 6/20/02, Bob Timmons wrote:
>I can't say I've ever seen a down/up condition.  Up/Down perhaps.
>
>I'm sure there are exceptions, but it's my belief that the router doesn't
>care about encoding, but rather a layer-1 connection to the dce/dte device.
>If the router can 'talk' to the device on the other end of the cable, you
>should get an up/x condition, where x would depend on the csu/dsu condition
>of the line.

This is an interesting discussion. I think of encoding and framing as 
both being different sublayers of layer 1.

>
>I don't have a csu handy, otherwise I'd check that right now.  I can do that
>tomorrow morning (10:30 pm est here), but you may have an answer prior to
>that...
>
>
>>  Hi Priscilla,
>>
>>  I have actually had this scenario (multiple times), but due to the
Telco's
>>  misconfiguration.
>>  Specifically we were expecting b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I can't confirm
>>  which was configured incorrectly, but I can confirm that going through
>>  all of the different combinations available at the router you will
>>  get all combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and
>down/down).
>>
>>  I can also confirm, you will not establish connectivity, regardless. I
>>  believe
>>  either b8zs/esf or sf/ami are the only valid combinations. At least that
>is
>>  all I've
>>  ever worked with.
>>
>>  Hope this helps,
>>  -TV
>>
>>
>>  ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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>>  > Hi Group Study,
>>  >
>>  > While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
>>  > questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
>>  >
>>  > A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
>>  > cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has
>been
>>  > misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
>>  > doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
>>  CSU/DSU
>>  > that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)
>>  >
>>  > Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
>>  >
>>  > And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
>>  > misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
>>  >
>>  > If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have
>read
>>  > the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
>>  >
>>  > Thanks
>>  >
>>  > Priscilla
>>  >
>>  > ________________________
>>  >
>>  > Priscilla Oppenheimer
>>  > http://www.priscilla.com




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