> I think I come to the same conclusion that you did, which is that you can
> ping an unnumbered serial interface. It's kind of stretching the truth
> though. You're pinging the router, but are you really pinging the serial
> interface when you're using an address that is not associated with the
> serial interface?

Proxy ICMP? (Does the source address contained in the echo replies affirm
that possibility?) It seems as if designating certain details as
implementation-specific might serve to partially undermine the scope of
standard diagnostic protocols. In the simple case, If a device on the far
side of one and only one serial link responds to pings even though the
interface is unnumbered, you might reasonably infer that the interface is
healthy enough to serve its traditional purpose (although you might have to
sacrifice the level of diagnostic detail you are privy to when the interface
is explicitly configured with a distinct ip address). If you have multiple
unnumbered serial links to the same host, an echo reply surrenders some of
its diagnostic credibility. If you are merely concerned with reaching the
host and destinations behind it, this affirms the motivation & proper
behavior of a loopback address. If you have non-trivial policy-routing in
place, or some arrangement that exhibits a similar reliance upon the actual
paths traversed, your reachability checks might lead you even further from
the realtime status information you seek.

>But I admit, I'm acting like Bill Clinton now and
> questioning the meaning of words. ;-)

It seems as he was quite comfortable to merely use them & leave the
questioning to others.
Even when cornered & forced to provide interpretation, his convictions were
unwavering & left no room for question or debate of any kind. HE didn't have
questions, the impeachment committee did . . .

> Trace route works too, by the way, even when the Ethernet interface is
down.
> I don't have an easy way to test SNMP. It might work too.

> Priscilla




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