I think that you should wait until it is actually illegal to purchase this
equipment and then go on a diatribe. Until then the prospect of solid
competition is good for all. Even if it does become illegal in this country
you have got a hard row upstream in some Asian countries to get them to
comply. Especially if the Chinese gov is involved in the project. This will
eventually drive down prices of Cisco equipment either way. So it is a win
win.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Columbus" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Huawei routers - a.k.a. futurewei.com [7:49778]


> Just thought I'd comment on this....
>
> Let me issue a disclaimer first:
> I've never heard of these routers until this thread.  I'm only responding
> to the information presented in these posts.  I've been, so far, unable to
> verify the information presented for myself.  If I'm mistaken, and the
> product isn't a Cisco ripoff, then I apologize.
>
> With that said:
>
> Am I the only one who finds it troubling that this company has,
apparently,
> copied Cisco's proprietary designs and is selling them as their own?
> Sure they're cheaper.  So is pirated software.  Does it make it right to
> support an operation like this?  These guys even ripped off Cisco's
product
> line names.  Surely there's some legal recourse for Cisco, at least in the
> USA.
> I guess I'm bothered because this group is so anti-NDA violation,
> anti-software piracy, etc....and then when something like this comes out,
> no one bothers to speak up against it.  In fact, people seem excited
> because they'll be able to put together a cheaper lab to practice for the
> CCIE lab.  Personally, I don't see any difference between this and
> willingly buying / exchanging pirated software.  If I discover that the
> claims are true, and that this company is only selling reverse-engineered
> Cisco products, I, for one, will not support them or their equipment.
>
> Just my opinion...
> Craig
>
>
>
>
> At 03:10 PM 7/26/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >Hi group,
> >
> >Huawei routers were introduced into the local market sometime in the past
2
> >months in an asian networking exhibition called "Communicasia".
> >
> >That's where I met the Huawei distributor whom had volunteered to provide
a
> >demo set for me to play with (myself from an international mnc, has
current
> >projects to revamp our LAN/WAN structure) and guess what, my boss is
> >requesting me to have a look at their routers !
> >
> >The day the router came into the office, I noticed that there were no
> >manuals provided. After meddling with the router, I believed that there
was
> >no need to request for one in the first place ! There will be no
> >requirements to load the box with IOS, it is IOS (with a bit of
> >differences). The whole thing was CLONED !
> >
> >I'm not too sure about reversed-engineering but more on how Cisco  is
going
> >to protect their market dominance. With boxes selling for 30-40% cheaper,
I
> >guess lots of ppl will be rushing off to buy it.
> >
> >Guess might as well I pack my bags for China to get a new set of
> >certifications.
> >
> >Ron Tan




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