Hardcore, BABY!!!!!! I love it!!!! Shawn K.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Robert D. Cluett [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941] > > "I will be a CCIE before I die"? Man, is that how we look at this? > > ""Vogel Matthew GS-11 CFAO/IRMD"" wrote in > message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I would like to add my 2 cents on this topic as well. This is a debate > that > > I have heard over and over and the answer is that it depends on the > > individual person and what they wish to achieve with a CCIE > certification. > > A couple of points need to be made. > > > > 1. Certifications, including the CCIE, are not a guarantee of a job or a > > particular salary. I am studying for the CCIE now and everyone tells me > > that I am going to make six figures when I get my cert. I do not > believe > > that that will happen and I am not getting my cert for the money. I > work > > for the government for less than my peers and will continue to do so > after > I > > get my cert. A government job has great benefits and good job security. > I > > also get to go home at 4:30 everyday. > > > > 2. Certification does not mean you know it all. True the CCIE is the > > pinnacle of Cisco certs but is does not mean you know it all. There are > > many more topics that are not covered in the CCIE that a person may not > have > > knowledge of. That is why there are multiple CCIE tracks. > > > > 3. Continuing one's education is never a bad thing. In the networking > > world things change by the day. Working toward a cert and staying > certified > > is a good way to force yourself to stay up with the technology. > > > > 4. Better to have the cert than not to. If you are applying for a job > and > > their are two other candidates with the same experience level and > training > > but you have a CCIE cert and they do not, who do you think is going to > get > > the job? In today's job market every little bit helps. For ever person > I > > have heard say it did not make a difference when they got hired, I know > > three more people that say a cert did make the difference. I know that > my > > certs, MCSE, CCNP, and CCDA helped me get my current job right after > Sept. > > 11. > > > > Like I said, it boils down to each individual making a decision. > Personally > > I am not going for the CCIE for the money or a job. I already have > both. > > The payback for me in the knowledge that I got the cert when others said > I > > could not. The prestige is also a good thing. To me it does not matter > how > > long or how much money it takes, I will be a CCIE before I die. > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: McHugh Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941] > > > > > > I am not so sure it is worth it. I had a CCNP, CCDP, and experience as a > > network engineer and was out of work for almost an entire year. I think > it > > is only worth it for the challenge and if you really love it , becuase > your > > going to have to put so much time and effort into passing the lab unless > > your willing to make a huge sacrifice and really enjoy it then just not > > going to be fun. Just my 2 cents. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51027&t=50941 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
