A new moto for the group, maybe! ""Kaminski, Shawn G"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hardcore, BABY!!!!!! I love it!!!! > > Shawn K. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert D. Cluett [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:40 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941] > > > > "I will be a CCIE before I die"? Man, is that how we look at this? > > > > ""Vogel Matthew GS-11 CFAO/IRMD"" wrote in > > message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > I would like to add my 2 cents on this topic as well. This is a debate > > that > > > I have heard over and over and the answer is that it depends on the > > > individual person and what they wish to achieve with a CCIE > > certification. > > > A couple of points need to be made. > > > > > > 1. Certifications, including the CCIE, are not a guarantee of a job or a > > > particular salary. I am studying for the CCIE now and everyone tells me > > > that I am going to make six figures when I get my cert. I do not > > believe > > > that that will happen and I am not getting my cert for the money. I > > work > > > for the government for less than my peers and will continue to do so > > after > > I > > > get my cert. A government job has great benefits and good job security. > > I > > > also get to go home at 4:30 everyday. > > > > > > 2. Certification does not mean you know it all. True the CCIE is the > > > pinnacle of Cisco certs but is does not mean you know it all. There are > > > many more topics that are not covered in the CCIE that a person may not > > have > > > knowledge of. That is why there are multiple CCIE tracks. > > > > > > 3. Continuing one's education is never a bad thing. In the networking > > > world things change by the day. Working toward a cert and staying > > certified > > > is a good way to force yourself to stay up with the technology. > > > > > > 4. Better to have the cert than not to. If you are applying for a job > > and > > > their are two other candidates with the same experience level and > > training > > > but you have a CCIE cert and they do not, who do you think is going to > > get > > > the job? In today's job market every little bit helps. For ever person > > I > > > have heard say it did not make a difference when they got hired, I know > > > three more people that say a cert did make the difference. I know that > > my > > > certs, MCSE, CCNP, and CCDA helped me get my current job right after > > Sept. > > > 11. > > > > > > Like I said, it boils down to each individual making a decision. > > Personally > > > I am not going for the CCIE for the money or a job. I already have > > both. > > > The payback for me in the knowledge that I got the cert when others said > > I > > > could not. The prestige is also a good thing. To me it does not matter > > how > > > long or how much money it takes, I will be a CCIE before I die. > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: McHugh Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:42 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941] > > > > > > > > > I am not so sure it is worth it. I had a CCNP, CCDP, and experience as a > > > network engineer and was out of work for almost an entire year. I think > > it > > > is only worth it for the challenge and if you really love it , becuase > > your > > > going to have to put so much time and effort into passing the lab unless > > > your willing to make a huge sacrifice and really enjoy it then just not > > > going to be fun. Just my 2 cents.
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