This was Cisco's old theory.  In theory, it would work, but in reality, if
the frame switch saw a packet come into it's ingress interface with the
packet already marked DE, it will drop it because it was unexpected.

I asked the telco's your question last year and that's the answer they gave
me.  Cisco seems to have abandoned that theory a while ago, which is
probably why you haven't seen it written anywhere.


""dj""  wrote in message
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> Running a VoIP application over a frame-relay network with 256k CIR and
> 512k BIR.  From the LLQ docs I reviewed, to guarantee good voice
> quality, traffic shaping all frame traffic to CIR is recommended along
> with LLQ of voice packets.
>
> Would like to take advantage of BIR bandwidth and still guarantee voice
> packets are not dropped by the frame relay switch network when
> congestion occurs.  Here are my thoughts:
>
> What if the router were to pre-mark all data packets as "Discard
> Eligible" (DE) on the outbound serial interface connected to the frame
> network.  Voice packets would NOT be marked DE.  Then run up to BIR
> rates with LLQ prioritization for voice. Would the carrier frame network
> switches drop only the pre-marked DE data packets (by the router) when
> congestion occurred and NOT drop any voice packets?  I haven't found any
> Cisco links that addressed QOS in this fashion.  Any links on this topic
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> The objective is to squeeze more bandwidth (BIR vs CIR) out of your
> frame relay network without dropping any voice packets. Why would this
> not work and what are the caveats?
>
> regards,
> dj




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