""Peter van Oene""  wrote in message
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> At 06:24 PM 1/8/2003 +0000, The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> >""Jenny McLeod""  wrote in message
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> > > As well as "show ip ospf neighbour" suggested below, "show ip ospf
int"
> is
> > > worth looking at.
> > >
> > > TLaWR, I think you've had a brain fade.  Routers can be neighbours but
> not
> > > adjacent.  But you knew that?
> >
> >
> >Is this one of those "tree falling in the forest" questions? I personally
> >don't consider that two OSPF routers can have a "neighbor" relationship
> >without being adjacent. Call me one of those retentive types.
> >
> >I am always willing to learn. So how would to OSPF routers be neighbors
if
> >they are not adjacent? I appreciate they can be on the same link, just
like
> >my own neighbors live on the same street. That doesn't mean there is a
> >relationship.
>
> Routers on a multi-access segment where a DR and BDR exist may be
> neighbors, but not form an adjacency.  All the non DR/BDR routers will not
> become adjacent with one another, however they will still be neighbors.
>
> I think you knew this already though :)


OK. kinda like in my "neighborhood" where all of us live on the same block,
but most of us don't talk to eachother?  ;->


>
> Pete
>
>
>
> > >
> > > JMcL
> > >
> > > The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ""John Brandis""  wrote in message
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> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > can you tell I am having fun with OSPF ??
> > > > > Any way, I am playing with OSPF on different network types. I
> > > > wish to see
> > > > if
> > > > > i have a full adjacency or if I have only acheieved a neigbor
> > > > state on
> > > > > certain types of networks. Where, can I find what state I am
> > > > currently in,
> > > > > and what router is the DR/BDR. At moment, I am on point-point
> > > > link and I
> > > > am
> > > > > expecting not to see any election of DR/BDR.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > show ip ospf neighbor
> > > > show ip ospf neighbor detail
> > > >
> > > > can add ip addresses in there to see just a single neighbor.
> > > >
> > > > I'm a bit confused, though, by what you mean when you say
> > > > "neighbor state"
> > > > versus "adjacency" If you don't have adjacency, you don't have
> > > > anything. (
> > > > don't got adjacency, you don't got s**t, as they say in the
> > > > hood )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks all.
> > > > >
> > > > > jb
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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