Thats the worst advice I have heard in a good while. Setting
one end hard-set and the
other to auto is asking for collision and FCS errors. Any
time I have an FCS or collision
issue its because of that issue...

manually set both sides and you should be safe....

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jens Neelsen" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: 100 Mbps on Cat3 or Cat4 [7:63310]


> Hi,
> do not buy old 10 Mbps Hubs or switches unless they are
very
> cheap (Cisco 1924 switches are cheap on Ebay).
> I suggest to test the following version if you use 10/100
> switches: Set the switch to 10Mbps full duplex and leave
the PC
> at AUTO. This could make the upgrade easier because you
have
> just to configure the switch.
> Jens Neelsen
>
> --- "Adam Grimes (adgrimes)"  wrote:
> > I think the best bet for you would be to start buying
the
> > 10/100Mbps
> > switches and manually setting the PCs to 10Mbps.
> > That way you havent wasted money on expensive 10Mbps
switches
> > which
> > (when Cat5 cable is eventually installed) will be
obselete.
> > Then it's
> > just a case of going round and doing the (tedious) job
of
> > switching the
> > NIC's back to autosense...
> > I'll try and test the Cat3/Cat4 problem out in our lab
and
> > post an
> > update.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > Adam Grimes
> >
> > IT Engineer - CCNP/CCDA
> > Cisco Systems
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pat Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 3:00 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: 100 Mbps on Cat3 or Cat4 [7:63310]
> >
> >
> > Are unintelligent 10 Mbps hubs better than unintelligent
> > 10/100 Mbps
> > switches when the network cables that connect the PCs to
the
> > hub or
> > switch are Cat3 or Cat4?
> >
> > I provide network services to dozens of non-profits.
Most of
> > the sites
> > have Cat3 or Cat4 cabling. I have a co-worker who says
that 10
> > Mbps hubs
> > should be used until the sites are upgraded to Cat5
(which
> > won't be
> > happening any time soon).
> >
> > His rational: If the PC NICs are set to auto detect
speed and
> > the
> > unintelligent 10/100 switch is set to auto detect speed,
that
> > data will
> > try to pass through the Cat3 or Cat4 wire at 100 Mbps.
He
> > says that
> > while the data can pass thru the wire at those rates,
it's the
> > signaling
> > that gets scrambled at that rate on a Cat3 or Cat4 wire.
> > Consequently,
> > to prevent signaling problems that may in turn cause
data
> > integrity
> > problems, he's recommending to use 10 Mbps hubs.  Is
this a
> > valid
> > argument?
> >
> > Note: New, unintelligent 10 Mbps hubs appear to be
becoming
> > less
> > available and more costly relative to unintelligent
10/100
> > Mbps switches
> > as time goes on.  Consequently, this issue is starting
to have
> > financial
> > implications.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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