> Dear All:
>  I agree in general with Doc's comments about "true" citterns. I'd been
> using that term, however, to distringuish historical citterns and copies of
> them from what modern-day Celtic musicians call a cittern, which is
> actually an octave mandolin.
> Cheers,
> Jim
> 

I could well have misunderstood what Doc was saying (but I do enjoy a good rant 
and an opportunity to disagree) but surely, in Doc's terms, the modern cittern 
is fully a cittern - not a type of mandolin - just as the 18th century cittern 
is fully a cittern and not a guitar. 


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