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From: "Peter Forrester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "cittern" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:55 AM
Subject: [CITTERN] guitar?


> David Kilpatrick writes of a guitar by Signorelli in Orvieto cathedral.
We
> cannot get Channel 5 in the wilds here, but I suspect that this is the
viola
> de mano from the centre of the group of musicians above the blessed.
There
> is a somewhat similar instrument, side view, very shallow, being tuned
lower
> down on the left-hand side.  The viola da mano player seems to be the lead
> singer of the group which also includes a harp, three lutes, two
tambourines
> and a viola da bracchio.  The vihuela reached Italy before 1500, pictures
> also in Naples and Rome, where it slightly altered its form as a plucked
> instrument, and greatly altered its form as the viol family.
>
> Peter
>

Hi Peter;
Here's a copy of the full image -- for you or anyone
http://tinyurl.com/cgrpt  200k

I gather you're commenting here on Kilpatrick's loose use of terms, "guitar"
rather than vihuela?

One thing I'll add is that the alterations in forms are perhaps less great
than usually thought. I don't know how much people here are familiar with
the earliest vihuela and viola, plucked and bowed, so forgive me, but just
in case, I'll point people specifically to the sharply waist-cut models of
vihuela and viola (both), in Spain and in Italy, from about 1475 onwards.
It's from these waist-cut instruments, less often seen but actually
representing more than half of the landscape and playing field, that viols,
bowed guitars, vihuela de arco, viola cum arculo, come. The perceived
alterations or leaps between plucked and bowed varieties of vihuela and
viola diminishes significantly once one becomes aware of this other line of
plucked viola/vihuela. There are indeed some refinements that become
specific to each, plucked or bowed, but there appears to be an early point
where a single instrument might have served double-duty, pluck or bow,
single course stringing or paired courses, 4, 5, and 6 string, all existing
concurrently and right from the start, plucked and bowed, since around 1475,
believe it or not.

That's a lot to have squeezed into one paragraph, but if people will take a
look at all the images on this page 2 (at least) of the full 6 pages section
. . .
http://www.thecipher.com/viola_da_gamba_cipher-2.html
. . . noting in particular all the waist-cut models of vihuela and viola,
plucked and bowed, and note the early instruments which while most
resembling plucked machines, are in fact being bowed (see their low flat
glued down pluck-style brides, etc).

You can probably skip most of the text and just see the pictures. There are
tons of other instruments and relationships to be viewed on pages 3, 4, and
5, as well, i.e. to really see the progression and steps to what we commonly
think of as viols, and to really see the greater
vihuela-viola-guitar-family, plucked and bowed, in an integrated fashion,
side by side, reunited. By the 17th century, much of the visual
"guitar-ness" of viols is lost, so seeing late 15th and all 16th century
examples, the genisis, is important. Amazing to discover, for example, that
many many early viols were played almost horizontally across the lap, neck
out to the left, just like a guitar, rather than held verticle "da gamba".
Even more surpising to see is the smaller viols that were actually played
"da braccio", on the arm, like a violin. I spent a great deal of time
exploring that part of the story, and when you see it, it makes perfect
sense, and does recapture another essentially lost and forgotten thread of
the family story.

Bottom line is that the leap from a Signorelli body-style vihuela to a viol,
a bowed guitar, would justifiably seem great, but there were other players
on the field, pluckers, with a very different kind of appearance and
body-shape, yet still being true and actual vihuela and viola, plucked and
bowed, in Spain and Italy alike (and not only there, quite a few very early
French examples exist as well, and still others).

I could single-out individual instruments, and point to them in a particular
sequence, if anyone wants. Let me know.

Thanks
Roger




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