In Portugal several people refer to the cittern introduced in Portugal in the middle of the 16th century. Pedro Cabral has made enourmous efforts to proof the origins of the Guitarra Portuguesa MAINLY based on the renaissance cittern. I could tell you more, if I could speak Portuguese, but here are two links, that mention that 16th century influence.... http://www.filomusica.com/filo27/fca.html http://www.attambur.com/Noticias/20053t/biografiaDaGuitarra.htm For me, since I read those theories more than once, it seemed common knowledge that there was cittern influence in Portugal BEFORE the English Guittar. Otherwise it won't have been logical for me to make a connection of two rootlines.... Martina Rosenberger
"Frank Nordberg" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Stuart Walsh wrote: > > Someone mentioned the Iberian cittern recently; meaning the cittern in > > Spain and Portugal. > > I'm afraid that was me and I was not thinking clearly. The question was > wether the Portuguese guitar appeared in a country already familiar with > citterns. What I had in mind was the other citterns commonly in use in > Spain and Portugal today. However I don't know if any of these are any > older than the Portuguese guitar. > > Fortunately other less rash list members have actually managed to find > some *other* evidence to support my hasty claim. :-) > > Frank Nordberg > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > --
