> From: ron fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:58:00 -0700 > To: "Roger E. Blumberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [CITTERN] Re: A little more on the Andrade guitar >
> Roger E. Blumberg wrote: > > >>> From: ron fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:08:25 -0700 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [CITTERN] A little more on the Andrade guitar >>> >>> Dear Roger, >>> >>> I bought the Andrade guitarra about 7 years ago from World of Strings in >>> Long Beach, California. They had if for 25 or more years in a display >>> case. >>> >> Ron; >> >> Out if curiosity then, how would you date that Canadian collection example >> we saw earlier (which they guessed to be c.1940, but you disagree). >> http://www.insightsconsulting.biz/Instruments/059-x.jpg >> >> How much older do you think it is? 30's, 20's ? >> >> thanks >> Roger > I have not inspected the instrument and they have not provided any info about > the maker or distributor--it's an orphan. All I can say at this point is that > the tuners look older than the 1940's. When we can pin down the makers of the > tuners much will be revealed. > > I should note that it is a 19 fret instrument and my Andrade is a 17 fret > instrument with a slightly different shape. > > I really don't know what their instrument is. I don't know if it was altered > in Portugal or out of the country. Was it originally a small Portuguese > guitarra or a 12 string version of a Portuguese bandolim (bandolim is the > Portuguese word for mandolin). Typically the Portuguese bandolim is an > 8-string instrument. > > Ron Fernandez Ron, I must say I was hoping for something a little better than that from the leading authority on these instruments. I would think that the style of decoration alone might speak to you, help ball park it, narrow it down some. Here's what you said a day or two ago . . . > With regard to the Portuguese guitar in the Canadian Collection of old > instruments. You will notice that they refer to me (Fernandez Music) as the > authority on such Portuguese instruments. This is because they really do not > know anything about these instrument. Their date of 1940 is simply a guess on > their part. Just because something is on the internet does not make it true. and now you say you're unable to narrow it down any better than c.1890-1940 without knowing more about the tuners? Would you honestly be satisfied by such an answer? Is there no 20 year span, let's say, that you'd feel comfortable giving as your educated guess, judging by the picture alone, say "1930 plus or minus 10" -- something along those lines. Thanks Roger To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
