I think I may have asked this before but I've done more homework this time.

I'm trying to work out how to fret a home-made cittern and I'm having 
help from a local maker. He's going to re-fret my instrument - my fret 
placements just didn't work. Embarrassingly, I can't remember what 
string length I was working to when I made the instrument, but I think 
it was 50cms.

When I made the instrument I just used the guitarists 1/18 rule (or a 
more precise fraction) to set the fret positions and whether I'd 
miscalculated or simply sawn the frets in the wrong place (or both) I 
don't know. But  I've got an opportunity to have it put right.

Assuming a string length of  around 50cms (or a bit different; it has a 
floating bridge), any ideas on how to work out where to put the frets?


I've got very precise instructions form Carpentier's Methode of 1771. 
But his written instructions and an accompanying  diagram differ 
although it's just one detail, and an important detail. Carpentier is 
giving instructions for placing frets for an eighteen and a half  
'pouce' diapason (= eighteen and a half inch string length). A'pouce' is 
25.4mm.There are 12 'lignes' to a pouce.

So Carpentier is giving a fretting pattern for an instrument with a 
string length of 46.99cm.

The written instructions for  fretting the 'e' chanterelle up to the 
note b (but Carpentier gives instructions for notes beyond the twelfth 
fret) translating from lignes to mm are:

e-f      29.63mm
f-f#     22.2mm
f#-g    23.283mm
g-g#   21.166mm
g#-a   21.6958mm
a-a#   21.166mm
a#-b  19.579mm

The diagram in Carpentier's Methode doesn't mention notes just frets 
(sillets)  - fret 1, fret 2 etc and the numbers (given in 'lignes') 
match up with  the written ones except that  he misses out the g-g#. So 
the fret positions derived from the diagram are:

nut - fret 1       29.63mm
fret 1-fret 2     22.2mm
fret 2-fret3      23.283mm
fret 3-fret 4     21.6958mm
fret 4-fret 5     21.166mm
fret 5-fret 6     19.579mm
fret 6- fret 7    19.049mm


I wonder if these figures look at all plausible for an instrument with a 
string length of 46.99cms? And, if they do, which is right! The diagram 
misses out the g-g# but
for the fifth fret  (the interval of a fourth) the numbers add up the 
same for both diagram and written instructions: 117.9478mm. But for the 
seventh fret (the interval of a fifth) the numbers add up differently. 
The written instructions would have the seventh fret 158.7198mm from the 
nut. The diagram would place the seventh fret at 156.603mm from the nut.

So a relatively simple question to anyone who knows about fretting  is 
(to repeat): on a cittern with a string length of 46.99cms, which is the 
more plausible to have the seventh fret  at 15.87198cms or 15.6603cms?

Many thanks for any guidance or advice.





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