straying from the cittern somewhat ... but if you can overlook the eyewatering sports jacket on this wonderfully named gentleman (mr. farid el atrash) - about 2:20 seconds into this video clip, taken from an old egyptian movie, he really lets it rip. fingerpicking is ok (imho) but for drama and emotion, there's nothing quite like a risha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahOVh1VVD3w&mode=related&search= - bill --- Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. > The frames per second are a little sparse so some of > the bass notes > don't appear to be struck in the video. Or did he > pluck them with the > left hand? Or is there someone else just playing the > odd bass note? > The others seem normal. The video is not choppy. I > don't get it. > > The first bass note that I do see, appears to be > struck with just the > thumb. Is that correct? He seemed to just jump his > thumb over while > cradling the risha in his fingers. > > Coincidentally, I just jammed with an oud player > (for the first time) > from Bahrain last Tuesday. > cheers, > > On Dec 11, 2006, at 1:25 AM, bill kilpatrick wrote: > > > thanks to you all - > > > > the crosspicking i've been trying goes duu - on my > > mandolin that would be 3-1-2. someone named jessie > > mcreynolds is credited with "discovering" this > style > > on the mandolin but there must be earlier > references > > for it on the cittern, i'm sure. > > > > it might be useful to cite two video examples. i > find > > each of them impossible to do - i would say > humanly > > impossible but seeing and hearing is believeing. > in > > both cases, they start out slow, gradually picking > up > > speed to a point where i simply can't keep up - > call > > it a sound barrier: > > > > http://www.musicmoose.org/content/view/76/32/ > > > > .. beginner mandolin lessons - "crosspicking" by > > anthony hannigan > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59WNi75iiRM > > > > .. about 30 seconds into the video clip ronny > starts > > doing something that make my brain stop. > > > > i can "crosspick" quickly and accurately by doing > > ddudu - 3-2-2-2-2 using alternate strings, treble > and > > bass, but a speedy dd or uu of any picking > sequence is > > proving to be impossible. > > > > - bill > > > > --- Pedro Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> bill kilpatrick wrote: > >>> i'm determined to use an oud risha on my > mandolin, > >>> figuring that any knowledge i gain on it will > >> transfer > >>> to the oud. tremolo, ordinary strumming are all > >> ok > >>> but the biggest problem i have is cross picking. > >> i > >>> looked through the archives and found several > >>> informative references to plectra - quill, horn, > >>> plastic and wood were all mentioned. > >>> > >>> as the cittern has metal strings and frets and - > >>> presumably - some form of picking style similar > to > >>> cross picking, may i ask if there's a practice > >> regime > >>> or magic formula to help improve my cross > picking > >> and > >>> pick up speed ... or is it simply a case of > >> pressing > >>> on regardless and one day it will come? > >>> > >>> i try to relax my wrist, go slow and gradually > >> pick up > >>> speed but it always breaks down at a certain > point > >> - > >>> even with an ordinary, guitar pick. i can hit > the > >>> bass string and one treble fairly quickly and > >>> accurately but don't seem to be able to > >> incorporate > >>> that second treble string. > >>> > >>> thanks - bill > >>> > >>> Send instant messages to your online friends > >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> To get on or off this list see list information > at > >>> > >> > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >> If it's anything like an electric guitar, that's > >> pretty much it, it's a > >> matter of practice. Try to anchor your hand above > >> the lowest string > >> (with the side of your thumb/wrist) and don't > forget > >> to use the plectrum > >> at an angle in relation to the strings. That > works > >> for me at least. > >> Hopefully someone will give you better advice. > >> > >> Pedro > >> > >> > >> > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http:// > > uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > > ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
