Yes, Suze, I do blame the buyers as well as the sellers.  Do you think I was treated 
differently when I went looking for my first show quality Cavalier?  I wasn't - and I 
came from an extensive and successful background in the dog world.   None of the 
Cavalier people cared...when I went to my first club shows I felt like I had a sign on 
me that read "AKC person."  I didn't have such a sign and was, in fact, very happy 
that the breed was NOT recognized by the AKC.    In time I think most people accepted 
that.  The club thing is not an issue with
me.
    It was difficult to get a good puppy in the States then, and it still is.  But I 
do not believe anyone is forced to enter into the kind of contracts wherein the 
breeder gets a bunch of money up front and then dozens of puppies back, with the buyer 
paying stud fees and all expenses, etc.  There are alternatives...as Dave proved, and 
as Lauren Nikaci proved as well.  I don't know how far those two individuals searched, 
but they did do some searching.  (Just using them as examples, there are undoubtedly 
others around who refused to buy dogs
with strings attached.)
    As you said, when you begin you don't always know what direction you will want to 
head in insofar as pedigrees and bloodlines are concerned...therefore, why would a 
person without that kind of knowledge be so set on buying from a particular person or 
kennel that they had to sign their lives away just to get a dog from the "one and 
only" source?  It might be different if, after a few years, the buyer realized "oops, 
I've made a poor start, what I really want is dogs like Whoever has....." and then be 
willing to give up autonomy over a dog
just to have the bloodline or a particular dog.  But to do so in the very beginning, 
especially with someone who is virtually a stranger, well, the saying  Caveat Emptor 
is well founded, isn't it?
    Yes, almost all my Cavaliers leave here with a contract...and the terms are 
discussed with the buyers in detail beforehand.  I did sell one on trust with a verbal 
agreement and a handshake, and that arrangement has gone down the tubes as far as I'm 
concerned.  I sold a show-quality bitch for a pet price with the agreement that I 
could purchase back a puppy at the same price...that one is lost to me forever, I 
fear.  My fault, her gain.
    Some people also let you have the dog and later you find out that they have all 
sorts of requirements that were not mentioned up front.  Those people wouldn't dare 
have a written contract.
    If the terms of the contract require giving up control of the dog the buyer is 
spending money on, then the buyer shouldn't buy it.  If the buyer just has to have the 
dog, then whose fault is it that they signed the contract?
    You won't get a lecture on patience from me--I'm the most impatient person on 
earth, as the people who know me well can tell you.  However, as a dog person I stand 
by my opinion that if you sign a contract, you ought to read it first, and if the 
breeder isn't truly selling you the dog then it is your fault, not theirs, that you 
went ahead with it.  I adore my dogs, every one, including my funny little pets that 
can't be shown or bred, and yes, I have them.  Like many Cavalier owners, I have too 
many dogs, too.  But I don't have any, not one,
that I owe people puppies back on, and the only dog I know of that I have any right to 
puppies back from is one for whom I GAVE a dear friend a co-ownership.  She didn't ask 
for it, either.
    You asked if I wanted people to shop for bargains, and I don't know where you came 
up with that idea.....I did not discuss money at all.  My point is and was that it is 
wrong to blame only the seller......contracts are signed by both the seller and the 
buyer.  The buyer has to take some of the responsibility for entering into a contract 
that is basically a pyramid scheme.  Obviously, not everyone breeding Cavaliers sells 
them on those terms, and equally obviously, not everyone buying Cavaliers buys them on 
those terms.  Yes, there are people
who only sell that way, and so long as people keep buying from them, they'll continue 
to do it.  If there's no market for puppies sold with major strings on them, then 
those people will either stop breeding so much (because the people who breed the most 
are the ones who sell that way, usually) or stop selling with all those strings.
    It's no surprise to anyone that I have very strong opinions. I believe that it is 
possible to purchase wonderful Cavaliers without signing away your rights to do with 
them as you will.
    As far as mentoring goes, I mentor people and I have been and still am mentored by 
others...one's choices of mentor (god, I hate that word) should be very carefully 
made.  It is difficult to try to help someone who is constantly arguing about 
everything.
Peggy

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