> Winnie Clark wrote:
>
> I still don't see why anyone
> who tests and breeds responsibly wouldn't want everyone to know it.
> if more breeders made
> KNOWN the fact that they have these results.....I suppose by listing the
> results in a data base, then it might make it easier to educate prospective
> buyers.
>
> Yes, it *SHOULD* be a given that breeding stock is checked by cardiologists,
> but unfortunately I (and many others) don't believe that's the case.
>
> And those that are doing it should shout it from the rooftops.
Well, Winnie, there are some of us who prefer to keep our business to ourselves. Some
of us do not post the result
of every show (given that most of the show results in the Eastern US are available
elsewhere, I still don't see the need
to post results) we go to. Some of us don't make litter announcements. Some of us
don't post every time one of our
dogs goes to the vet, either. For those who feel the need to do that, fine...but not
all of us do.
If you WERE a breeder, especially one who'd been breeding dogs for over 40 years,
and in some breeds where hip
X-rays were truly a serious matter, you might know, that as Suze mentioned, the same
X-ray submitted to OFA three times can and often does come back with different
ratings.....and PennHip testing HAS
permanently injured a few dogs, both large and small breeds.
Dogs can and do have their eyes checked by canine opthomologists who provide
certification that may be submitted to CERF, should the owner choose to do so.
Listing the info with the Foundation doesn't
make the certification any more valid.
Patellas can be checked by almost anyone in dogs...no need for an OFA number
there, either...and unless patellas are required to be checked annually for OFA
certification, that certification is pretty
worthless, since patellas can loosen with age...and not necessarily old age.
Ligamentation has quite a lot to do with that.
Are we doing elbows now, too? I guess someone has run into a lot of elbow
problems, then...either that or they got a good sales talk from somebody.
I do find two things amazing. One is that the people who do scream about testing
are the ones who, right here in front of everyone, have no problem implying that those
of us who don't scream about it
don't do it. Breeders and pet owners alike.
Those of us who test and don't run around bragging about it sit and wonder why it is
so necessary for the other side to be so arrogant about testing results. Frankly, the
results of tests on my dogs
should only be of interest to me and the people who breed to or buy my dogs. Nothing
secretive about it, but it is not anyone else's business.
The second thing is that I am amazed that a non-breeder is telling anyone what
questions to ask breeders and giving advice on where to get a puppy.
Especially a non-breeder who believes that most breeders don't keep old dogs.
Hmmm - how many breeders have you visited? Every breeder with whom I am in regular
contact, here and abroad, and yes,
there are many, has a houseful of old dogs...some of us even have dogs that have never
been shown, never been bred, but who will be with us until they die.
Personally I found that remark extremely offensive--nearly as offensive as the
implication that only "pet owners" are upset when their darling dogs die. Poor
Winnie...you have obviously met some not
nice people in this breed.
Peggy
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