Genetics is a balancing act... Very well put Dianne,I have waded through a mountain of mail rather like a tennis match between the principal players with very long rallies and the odd point scored at the end! Yes and there does seem to be an element of those who are newest shout loudest. I reckoned along time ago that dog breeding is not a science and nature has a nasty habit of throwing a spanner in the works when least expected. Breeders can test for hearts, eyes, hips and patellas and whatever is the latest fashion and with the continuing advancement in expertise inVeterinary hospitals they will find something. Most of the breeders I have been in contact with over the yeras do their best and once you build up a good relationship with them are quite open about their dogs and their failings and shortcomings. One very well known one didn't run many tests, but few would argue that this wasn't a kennel of healthy dogs( shall not mention names but you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work it out!) Furthermore, if you see a kitchen full of old dogs things can't be too bad on the health front, you must use your eyes and instincts. It is dangerous to malign certain dogs from the past for perpetuating bad hearts as so many factors come into play, as even littermates display different health patterns. Maybe Anne sees herself as a roving ambassadress encouraging and instigating more testing in England and Australia/ New Zealand something akin to our late princess Diana a"Queen of Hearts" ( excuse the pun).I always thought the Southern hemisphere had an enviable record by all accounts. However at the end of the day it is surely still all" a balancing act" and without wanting to sound cynical, grannies and sucking eggs come to mind. Just my two penna worth Geoffrey Porter Ringcreevy N Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: "prestonville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:50 AM Subject: [CKCS-L] Great Studs and other topics
> Genetics is a balancing act... > > How true Kathy - I have sat back and read the posts flashing back and forth > on this list for some time now and wondered aloud to myself should I step in > or not VBG. I have also wondered at how some have spoken with such great > authority on subjects and dogs when they have been in the breed as owners > and breeders for such a short period of time. > > I do wonder what some of the other lurkers on the list think about these > same posts and their opinions on the voices of authority aired. I wonder - > are these people considered to be the foremost authorities and 'expert' on > our breed? I ask myself where is the proof - of consistently producing > wonderful dogs (acknowledged by their peers) which have produced excellent > Cavaliers (not just supplying companion dogs) that the whole world > acknowledges are the best. I am sure the answers to my own and others > questions will come flooding in VBG. > > Having been involved in the breed for a great number of years as a breeder, > exhibitor and judge I know only too well how unpredictable this breed can > still be and that no amount of procrastination/eulogising on Phenotype v > genotype theories beats having breed actual dogs. > > AND as any breeder of note will agree, If you concentrate on > selecting/eliminating one aspect only - you can end up with other problems > even more horrendous. Swings and roundabouts I think some call it. > > Dianne Tyssen > Prestonville Cavaliers > Invercargill New Zealand > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.prestonville.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Yonkers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1904 3:38 AM > Subject: [CKCS-L] Great Studs > > > > Greetings... > > > > I can not be specific regarding which stud in history that I would > pinpoint > > as promoting overall health... I think we would have to break it down to > > subcategories of...heart, hips, and eyes. Since "our pick" would be > > retrospective in nature it might lend to selection bias...since we do not > > have objective tests measurements of these dogs and their offspring. > > > > Genetics is a balancing act... > > > > Take care, > > Kathy Yonkers > > Stuarthome CKCS > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
