As a very small breeder in Washington state, I really have to take exception to the concept that a pet owner shouldn't have an opinion about breeders or their practices. Unless the rest of you are producing all show puppies, and placing all of your pups in show homes, some of you are bound to be placing them in pet homes. At least one of two of your puppies simply must be going out as pets. Mine do. Of course, I know I don't have 50 years of experience breeding cavaliers, but still....we do produce pets in every litter, and we do sell them to pet owners. The pet owners actually constitute the largest percentage of owners. Why should they not have an opinion about breeding practices? Particular those, like Barb and Winnie, who have houses filled with rescue dogs? They are the ones who are cleaning up the messes that have been made by breeders all over the US who failed to test, who failed to take their dogs back, and who are still out there breeding. Rescue people, unfortunately always know where the dirty laundry is in every breed. They are the ones who are rehoming the 3 year old with MVD whose owner got tired of giving meds or couldn't afford them. They are the ones who get the dogs with Hip dysplasia who can't run up and down steps anymore and so are dumped. Why in the world would we not view their input as valuable? Myra Savant
>From: Barbara Cooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] who is holier than whom? >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:55:35 -0600 > >Peggy, >I couldn't agree with you more! The United States is a free country! Not >that it's >relevant in this case, the opinion of the list administrator is. I'm sure >she will >advise me if my opinions as a pet owner are not allowed. Until then, it's >free speech >for all! >Barb Cooke >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I think the point (no matter who's trying to make it) is this. > > It is NOT the people who don't jump on every bandwagon who are the >namecallers. > > On the contrary, anyone who doesn't swarm to have the latest health >tests is > > condemned out of hand by those of you who test everyone for >everything......just > > because some people don't want to do as you do, you express your hurt >feelings at > > the same time as you infer that we don't test at all. > > I, for one, think that such jumping to conclusions about one >another, and the > > frequent screams of self-defense when one doesn't agree with another, >are mighty > > boring. > > I also think that people who don't breed should not enter into >discussions > > between breeders....on the other hand, my definition of a breeder may >not be the > > same as yours. To me, having a few litters doesn't make one a >breeder........... > > Don't bother, please, to start screaming again that your feelings >are hurt, this > > is still the United States of America and we are entitled to disagree. >Inferences > > that people who don't shout their health test results to the world are >not testing > > at all are very much unwelcome. > > Also, as someone who has bred dogs for years without having (so far) >the dire > > results everyone is so terrified of, I don't really want to have someone >who NEVER > > bred anything telling me how to breed my dogs. > > I don't tell you how to raise your children, keep your home, cook >your dinner, > > or any of the other things that are none of my business. We ALL want >healthy > > dogs. I personally know NO ONE who doesn't do health testing. Why >every > > discussion on this list turns into a name calling contest is beyond >me...it doesn't > > happen on my other lists, and we are much more vehement on those >lists..... > > We only get into trouble when we are led by fools. We are all >exposed to the > > same educational materials. If we can't disagree, we will never improve >anything. > > EGO has not much to do with it...why we have to be insulted simply >because we > > disagree is beyond me. > > Peggy > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
