In a message dated 2/12/02 6:24:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > For Heaven's sakes, people--If we are going to talk about the Garden > can't we talk about something other than whether or not a handler > touched her knee to the floor? I was lucky to atttend and see a great > many fine dogs, some of them amateur handled, and many of them > recognized either by the judge and/or the gallery. It was a lovely >
Hi Stephanie, Yes, it was lovely seeing so many nice dogs at the Garden and Andreas looked as fantastic as he did last year (which I hadn't thought possible.) IMHO I don't see how the Judge could have made a better choice. Aside from that, I am still bruised and bleeding from the beating I took from some of the exhibitors that took exception to some of the posting on this list regarding professional handlers. I know that many of the accusations were for things I had not said. It seems that if I agreed with someone about one statement in their post such as wishing the judges would judge the dogs and not the person at the end of the lead I was accused of saying that all professional handlers cared only about the money and that I thought they should turn clients down with dogs that were not worthy. Absolutely not. If I had expressed an opinion, which I don't believe I did, (but I am sure some of you will search the archives to check it out) I would have said it is the owner who has the responsibility to see that the best representatives of the breed are exhibited. If there was someone who suggested that the professional handlers should turn down clients just to help the breed...I sure don't remember reading that, nor would I agree with the concept. Handlers have their place in the show ring and I see no reason why the Cavaliers should be different than other breeds? (But no kneeling or stacking, please.) However, if anyone cares how I feel I would tell them that I would "prefer" that it be limited to the Specials and not to the class dogs. (I don't mean there should be a rule against it. I am just expressing my wish to see owners in the classes.) We are not going to change the dog world. If someone has the desire to have their dog in the top rankings of the breed it would be impossible to have a job and family and campaign a dog every weekend. But I assume that reasonably nice dogs would be among the majority in that catagory. During this beating I was asked to defend the CKCSC as well as those that judge in Canada. I was ridiculed about preferring a system of showing dogs in venues other than the AKC where we have no specials classes and all dogs have to beat champions in addition to non-champions in order to gain the title of Champion. I was asked whether or not I thought that when a Judge walked into the ring in the CKCSC they did or did not know who Nellie was or some other dogs who have gained some notoriety? I was asked whether judges knew who Kevan or Brian were when judging in England? I was asked whether or not exhibitors should be allowed to associate with judges socially since we obviously object to professional handlers who spend weekends with the Judges. (I will answer that the same way I did when I defended the seminar in Arizona to which I will not be attending. It is one thing when Judges mingle with ALL the exhibitors in a social setting and another when a few exhibitors or pro handlers practically live with the judges every weekend.) I have more to say but have to go meet my husband for dinner...it is almost 9pm. I hope that those otherwise very nice individuals will in the future refrain from making one person responsible for the opinions of many other listmembers. As nice as they were, I was definitely being badgered and did not find it enjoyable. Now, to open up another can of worms, again.... I do want to say that I did leave the Garden with a renewed resolve to get the Board of the CKCSC "off their butts" and do something about this issue of using AKC only dogs. There is absolutely no valid reason to delay this any further. Most of the arguments I have heard against opening up our "gene pool" ???? don't hold up. I saw many lovely Cavaliers with beautiful pedigrees and we should all be working together to keep the Cavalier looking they way they were meant to look. We, the members of the CKCSC, should be ashamed of ourselves for letting the Board delay this decision from meeting to meeting to meeting......and nothing ever happens. Phyllis Lasser WELMFORTH CAVALIERS Wyckoff, New Jersey ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
