The Breed Standards are "owned " by the Kennel Club Myra and as such can only be reprinted in our Yearbook for instance having obtained written permission from the KC. They have just brought in a rule that we have to apply for permission on an annual basis (yet another letter to write!! VBG) The Kennel Club consists of about 800 members and I don't know how many associate members. If the KC consider making changes to a breed standard they will consult that breed's committees or breed council for suggestions in wording but the ultimate decision is theirs (Kc) to make Code of Ethics on the other hand -any member of a club - be they breeder, exhibitor or pet owner can put forward suggestions. It then depends on the individual club how that is dealt with. Some Clubs have to circulate all the members, others it can be proposed, seconded and voted upon by the members who attend the AGM. the Code of Ethics has to go to the KC.for approval with the annual returns. The Kennel Club also has it's own Code of Ethics which we should adhere to. Briefly that is how it is
Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] English Kennel Club Rules > Just curious. Are pet owners in the UK allowed to vote on the breed > standard? Do pet owners there have an equal vote to a breeder? Myra > > > >From: Annette Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Myra > >Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:08:24 +0100 > > > >Well, then you need to get a couple of good genetics books and read up > > >on > > > > dog breeding. You probably need to learn the definition of a "test" > > >litter > > > > as defined by a canine geneticist. Myra > > > > Above Myra is the comment I was responding which I believe you wrote > >very > >condescendingly to Winnie - I believe that is YOUR name at the end of the > >post isn't it???? > >Ancient I may be in some people's eyes and subject to many senior moments, > >stupid I am not and I can still read and "Myra" does not look anything > >like > >"Suze" to me > >I was fully aware that there was a post from Suze below your post. > > > >Let me make it clear that my following comment is directed at no-one in > >particular - > >The manner is which "pet owners" are discussed and written to appals me on > >occasion . What is forgotten sometimes I think is that many of these "pet > >owners" are probably considerably more intelligent than many "so called > >"breeders" who have jumped on the Cavalier band wagon. > >Plus the fact that they are essential part of any breeders breeding > >programme because to who else would we sell our surplus puppies to? Not > >every puppy is show quality however much we might try to kid ourselves when > >they are first born - what happens to then? They go to the pet owner to be > >loved and cherished. The alternative would be to cull in the literal sense > >of the word - perish the thought > >I had better get on with something else before I start on the subject which > >Kim has suggested is discontinued suffice it to say the "Berlin" wall and > >kids who need there heads knocking together to knock some sense into them > >springs to mind VBG > > > >Annette > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 6:09 AM > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] IIA 3/not a new amendment > > > > > > > You need to re-read the post, Annette. Myra > > > > > > > > > >From: Annette Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] IIA 3/not a new amendment > > > >Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:33:10 +0100 > > > > > > > >Actually Myra I was responding to a post of yours where you were > >suggesting > > > >to someone that they read a book on canine genetics - nothing to do > >with > > > >Suze or anything that she wrote > > > >As for not following the discussion very well you are probably ight - > > > >there has been three days of "hot air" expressed on this list (I could > >use > > > >a > > > >more impolite phrase but my mother taught me not to swear in public! > >VBG) > > > >A subject or rather two related subjects that have been "done to death" > > > >several times to my knowledge in the past three years and no doubt > >before > > > >that and to say that as an outsider it becomes a bit tedious and in > > > >consequence my delete finger works over time. > > > >I could rabbit on at great length about my personal views as an > >outsider > > > >but > > > >no doubt I would be told to mind my own business and get suspended or > >even > > > >booted out! 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