Certainly the virus's that affect dogs can take that long, because of the
incubation period, but infections that enter from the open area at the
umbilical cord would not be expected to take that long to manifest
themselves.  You would see a more rapid onset of symptoms at the
site..redness, drainage, odor, heat, or small area of things that have the
appearance of a 'whitehead'.  When you have gotten a splinter or something
in your finger, how long has it taken for it to show signs and symptoms of
infection?  Certainly not two weeks.  Myra


>From: Susan Cochran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Update on puppy with blood in urine
>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 16:28:32 -0400
>
>Well, it has been my experience that the puppy looks perfectly normal and
>then at  two weeks of age, it shows illness. We've only had two or three in
>27 years, but that's how it was for us. Seems that it takes that long to
>build up the toxic condition.
>All the best,
>Susan Cochran
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Update on puppy with blood in urine
>
>
> > Certainly not on a newborn human, and I see no reason why it would be
>any
> > different with a dog.  Myra
> >
> >
> > >From: Susan Cochran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Update on puppy with blood in urine
> > >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:47:17 -0400
> > >
> > >Doesn't an umbilical infection take about 2 weeks to show up?
> > >All the best,
> > >Susan Cochran
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:29 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Update on puppy with blood in urine
> > >
> > >
> > > > If there is an infection from the umbilical cord, the vet ought to
>be
> > >giving
> > > > you amoxi drops and you should add in just a tiny bit of live
>culture
> > >yogurt
> > > > to replace what the amoxi will strip out.  If a pup is early, their
> > >clotting
> > > > factors are frequently not in place yet, and even a few sneezes can
> > >damage
> > > > the small vessels in the lung.  Keep clotting factor in your freezer
>and
> > >if
> > > > litters appear to be early, you can tube them one cc each, and head
>off
> > >a
> > > > lot of problems with bleeding.  The plasma also is rich in
>antibodies
> > >for
> > > > canine diseases.  Myra
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Lori Waldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Subject: [CKCS-L] Update on puppy with blood in urine
> > > > >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 02:19:30 EDT
> > > > >
> > > > >We were back to the vet this afternoon.  Thanks to advice from a
>few
>of
> > > > >you,
> > > > >all three pups got injections of plasma.  I remembered that my vet
>had
> > > > >given
> > > > >it once to a pup that didn't get colostrum.  My vet thought it was
>a
> > >good
> > > > >idea.
> > > > >I have been tube feeding and attempting to have her nurse.  I got a
> > > > >shipment
> > > > >of fading puppy syndrome remedy today and have been giving it every
> > >hour.
> > > > >Tonight I got the pup to nurse and there was a lot less blood in
>the
> > >urine.
> > > > >I know we are not out of the woods by any means, but it is a good
>sign.
> > >The
> > > > >blood seems to be the problem, not necessarily her size (though it
>does
> > >put
> > > > >her at a disadvantage).  The vet thinks it might be an infection
>from
> > >the
> > > > >umbilical cord. There are other possibilities, but she says that
>would
> > >be
> > > > >her
> > > > >bet.
> > > > >Thank you for all your suggestions.  It is so comforting to have
>the
> > >list
> > > > >to
> > > > >turn to in times like these.
> > > > >I'll keep you all informed.
> > > > >Lori Waldman
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