on 5/15/02 10:11 AM, Myra Savant at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Well...sometimes the bitch owner doesn't quite do enough, in my opinion.  We
> let someone use our boy....three nice sized puppies on xray.  Bitch was in
> labor an extremely long time and finally delivered a dead bitch puppy.
> Second bitch puppy came quickly and thrived.  Then....third puppy took over
> six hours to be delivered and was born dead.  No trip to the vet...no help
> was sought.  The breeder's general thought process was to avoid a c-section
> at all costs.

Yes, someone out this way had 4 dead pups because, rather than take the
advice of several experienced breeders, she wanted to do it 'her way' so
eventually there were 4 dead puppies...from the 'free return service'.  And
since the bitch was in labor all day long while the owner was at her job,
the litter--all 4 dead puppies-had to be removed via c-section

Judy Gates

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