Kelly is probably no longer on the list, as the various comments, i.e. persecution, has probably caused her to resign. If this is the case, what good did all of this accomplish? The very fact that she posted an introduction to the list in the first places tells me that she might not realize that her breeding practices are the norm and accepted by reputable breeders. It tells me that she might be open to learning and taking advantage of the collective knowledge on this list to improve her breeding practices.
I applaud Leanne's post welcoming Kelly and inviting her to learn. I wish more people had welcomed her. I, too, remember the man that Renee was talking about. It took quite a while, but he did learn. As she said, circumstances prevented him from changing his breeding program, and he turned his dogs over to rescue instead. He also probably had much tougher skin than Kelly and was willing to stick it out through the insults and stay on the list and garner the knowledge that he was *not* doing the right thing! As I remember, it took a lot of posts and a lot of convincing. I do not wish to discuss him, as he is no longer with us, but Renee brought it up and he is an excellent example of positive change. Instead of jumping on the band wagon and bashing someone whose practices we do not agree with, couldn't our posts start out in a positive way? The person the comments are directed to would still know we did not agree with what she did. The new people on the list searching for a puppy would realize this was not a person we recommended. However, the end result could be completely different. Rather than having the person quit the list learning only that the group of people on this list are what she now probably perceives as mean-spirited, cruel, and unfair, she could stay on the list and learn from those with more knowledge and experience. There was a time when I would have felt just as the reporter who wrote the article in the newspaper, that the way they raised their puppies was just fine and dandy! Perhaps some of you have the luxury of just "always" having known the right way to do everything re: dogs. How fortunate for you. I doubt the majority of us can say the same. I am sure that many of you will feel like bashing me both publicly and privately for what I have said, and that's fine. Isn't one of the purposes of this list education? Why can't we serve as teachers in some circumstances, and students in others? For me personally, I have learned so much from these lists. I remember specific people who helped me the most. With that knowledge, I started researching, and reading and cultivating people who personally could teach me more, and soaking in as much as I could. Why do we just immediately assume that this person would not be open to that? Her website? Her sister? The # of dogs she has? Can't people grow and learn if given the opportunity? Can't we give them the chance? Isn't positive energy better than negative energy? I know that for myself, when I use my energy positively I feel *so* much better than when I am upset and using negative energy. Isn't there the slightest possibility that being nice and helpful in this case is better than being critical and "holier than though"? If it turns out you were right, and change is not possible, isn't it better to have at least tried than immediately condemned? Carol Richards East Tennessee, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/carolscavaliers/ "My little dog, a heartbeat at my feet." Edith Wharton ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
