On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 15:12 +0400, Kirill Korotaev wrote: <snip> > > > > > > Like I said earlier, there is _no_ other way to get the list of tasks > > belonging to a resource group. > > > > > >>Commands like ps and top will show appropriate container number for each > >>task. > > > > > > There is _no_ container number in the non-container environment (or it > > will be same for _all_ tasks). > > Chandra, virtual container number is essentially the same as user id > in non-container environment. UBC were desgined for _users_ first. > Containers were just the first environment which started to use it widely.
I am not denying any of the above :) I think my original point is getting lost in the discussion, which is, there should be way (for the sysadmin) to get a list of tasks belonging to a resource group (in a non-container environment). > > And I really disagree when you say that non-container usecase is > a superset of container usecase. I believe it is vice versa, since I meant _only_ w.r.t resource management. My earlier replies were pointing quite a few of those. here are a few: - ability for the sysadmin to move a task to a resource group. - assignment of task to a resource group should be transparent to the app. - a resource group could exist with no tasks associated. Containers can work without these features (and as OpenVZ proves it does work). But, for a QoS type of resource management framework these are mandatory. > in container usecase you have a _full_ environment with root user and need > more resources to be taken into account. Support for different resources is a different topic. Users (of the two models) can decide to control as many (or as few) resources as they want. What I am talking here is about the ability of the framework. > > Thanks, > Kirill > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > ckrm-tech mailing list > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ckrm-tech -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Chandra Seetharaman | Be careful what you choose.... - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | .......you may get it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ ckrm-tech mailing list https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ckrm-tech
