Pavel Emelianov wrote:
> Balbir Singh wrote:
>> Pavel Emelianov wrote:
>>> Balbir Singh wrote:
>>>> Dave Hansen wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 11:33 +0400, Pavel Emelianov wrote:
>>>>>> I'm afraid we have different understandings of what a "guarantee" is.
>>>>> It appears so.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't we?
>>>>>> Guarantee may be one of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. container will be able to touch that number of pages
>>>>>> 2. container will be able to sys_mmap() that number of pages
>>>>>> 3. container will not be killed unless it touches that number of
>>>>>> pages
>>>>> A "death sentence" guarantee? I like it. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. anything else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's decide what kind of a guarantee we want.
>>>> I think of guarantees w.r.t resources as the lower limit on the
>>>> resource.
>>>> Guarantees and limits can be thought of as the range (guarantee, limit]
>>>> for the usage of the resource.
>>>>
>>>>> I think of it as: "I will be allowed to use this many total pages, and
>>>>> they are guaranteed not to fail." (1), I think. The sum of all of
>>>>> the
>>>>> system's guarantees must be less than or equal to the amount of free
>>>>> memory on the machine.
>>>> Yes, totally agree.
>>> Such a guarantee is really a limit and this limit is even harder than
>>> BC's one :)
>>>
>>> E.g. I have a node with 1Gb of ram and 10 containers with 100Mb
>>> guarantee each.
>>> I want to start one more. What shall I do not to break guarantees?
>> Don't start the new container or change the guarantees of the existing
>> ones
>> to accommodate this one :) The QoS design (done by the administrator)
>> should
>> take care of such use-cases. It would be perfectly ok to have a container
>> that does not care about guarantees to set their guarantee to 0 and set
>> their limit to the desired value. As Chandra has been stating we need two
>> parameters (guarantee, limit), either can be optional, but not both.
> If I set up 9 groups to have 100Mb limit then I have 100Mb assured (on
> 1Gb node)
> for the 10th one exactly. And I do not have to set up any guarantee as
> it won't affect
> anything. So what a guarantee parameter is needed for?
This use case works well for providing guarantee to one container. What if
I want guarantees of 100Mb and 200Mb for two containers? How do I setup
the system using limits?
Even I restrict everyone else to 700Mb. With this I cannot be sure that
the remaining 300Mb will be distributed as 100Mb and 200Mb.
--
Balbir Singh,
Linux Technology Center,
IBM Software Labs
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