Quoting Paul Menage ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On 3/7/07, Sam Vilain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Ok, they share this characteristic with namespaces: that they group
> >processes.
Namespaces have a side effect of grouping processes, but a namespace is
not defined by 'grouping proceses.' A container is, in fact, a group of
processes.
> > So, they conceptually hang off task_struct. But we put them
> >on ns_proxy because we've got this vague notion that things might be
> >better that way.
>
> Remember that I'm not the one pushing to move them into ns_proxy.
> These patches are all Srivatsa's work. Despite that fact that they say
> "Signed-off-by: Paul Menage", I'd never seen them before they were
> posted to LKML, and I'm not sure that they're the right approach.
> (Although some form of unification might be good).
The nsproxy container subsystem could be said to be that unification.
If we really wanted to I suppose we could now always mount the nsproxy
subsystem, get rid of tsk->nsproxy, and always get thta through it's
nsproxy subsystem container. But then that causes trouble with being
able to mount a hierarachy like
mount -t container -o ns,cpuset
so we'd have to fix something. It also slows things down...
> >>> about this you still insist on calling this sub-system specific stuff
> >>> the "container",
> >>>
> >> Uh, no. I'm trying to call a *grouping* of processes a container.
> >>
> >
> >Ok, so is this going to supplant the namespaces too?
>
> I don't know. It would be nice to have a single object hanging off the
> task struct that contains all the various grouping pointers. Having
The namespaces aren't grouping pointers, they are resource id tables.
I stand by my earlier observation that placing namespace pointers and
grouping pointers in the same structure means that pointer will end up
pointing to itself.
> something that was flexible enough to handle all the required
> behaviours, or else allowing completely different behaviours for
> different subsets of that structure, could be the fiddly bit.
>
> See my expanded reply to Eric' earlier post for a possible way of
> unifying them, and simplifying the nsproxy and container.c code in the
> process.
Doesn't ring a bell, I'll have to look around for that...
> >
> > - resource groups (I get a strange feeling of d?j? v? there)
>
> Resource groups isn't a terrible name for them (although I'd be
I still like 'rug' for resource usage groups :)
-serge
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