Hi Henry I think it is not a OS X bug. I have the same issue on my ubuntu. BTW Reto is also working on a linux distribution.
I am pretty sure that few months ago the graphs were very small when launching the platform the first time. IMO our sesame provider is not an alternative because it is extremely slow compared to tdb. that's why trialox has changed the default provider to tdb in 2009. Cheers Tsuy On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Henry Story wrote: > > On 11 Aug 2011, at 10:56, Henry Story wrote: > >> >> On 10 Aug 2011, at 15:59, Tsuyoshi Ito wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I tried to copy a felix-cache (latest platform without additional resources >>> in the graphs) from one pc to another. During the copy process I realized >>> that each graph is exactly 201,4MB on my mac. So a platform with no extra >>> data is about 1.2GB - quite big. Each additional graph is using also 200MB. >>> >>> Has this to do with the update of tdb? 3-4 month ago a graph with no >>> triples was very small. >>> >>> Is it possible to reduce the file size? > > It looks like this is a OSX bug. On Solaris with my live version of clerezza > at > http://foafssl.org/srv/idp > which has been running for a few days now, and which has a few graphs I get > reasonable graph sizes > > $ du -h -d 2 felix-cache/bundle100 > 15K felix-cache/bundle100/version0.0 > 226K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fid.myopenlink.net%2Fdataspace%2Fperson%2FKingsleyUyiIdehen1 > 225K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fflorent > 226K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fdata.kontroversen.de%2Ffoaf.rdf > 227K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.myxwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FXWiki%2Fsnapgull > 231K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.anjeve.de%2Ffoaf.rdf > 225K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turnguard.com%2Fturnguard > 228K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.myxwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FXWiki%2Ffish2010 > 224K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fdavelevy.info%2Ffoaf.rdf > 224K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fgihandias > 225K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2F > 258K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2Fpeople%2Fhenry%2Fcard > 225K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmelvincarvalho.com%2F > 227K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fid.myopenlink.net%2Fdataspace%2Fperson%2Ftthibodeau > 223K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Ftbox.graph > 223K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgulls.dontexist.org%2Fwebid%2Fwebid.php%3Fname%3Dniclas > 223K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.bergnet.org%2Fpeople%2Fbergi%2Fcard > 228K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FPeople%2FBerners-Lee%2Fcard > 224K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fdguardiola > 224K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fah1 > 224K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.fcns.eu%2Fpeople%2Fgebhardt%2Fcard > 226K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbigasterisk.com%2Ffoaf.rdf > 223K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2F > 4.9M felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fdguardiola > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.myxwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FXWiki%2Fsnapgull > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fid.myopenlink.net%2Fdataspace%2Fperson%2FKingsleyUyiIdehen1 > 223K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcontent.graph > 227K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fsystem.graph > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.myxwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FXWiki%2Ffish2010 > 227K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fconfig.graph > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2F > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.bergnet.org%2Fpeople%2Fbergi%2Fcard > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmelvincarvalho.com%2F > 228K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fgraph-access.graph > 608K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fweb-resources-cache.graph1312967243159 > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.fcns.eu%2Fpeople%2Fgebhardt%2Fcard > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgulls.dontexist.org%2Fwebid%2Fwebid.php%3Fname%3Dniclas > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgulls.dontexist.org%2F%7Efiona%2Ffiona.rdf > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fgihandias > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fdata.kontroversen.de%2Ffoaf.rdf > 224K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/https%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2Fuser%2Fadmin%2Fprofile > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fid.myopenlink.net%2Fdataspace%2Fperson%2Ftthibodeau > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fflorent > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgulls.dontexist.org%2F%7Efiona%2Ffiona.xml > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2F > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turnguard.com%2Fturnguard > 222K > felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2Fpeople%2Fhenry%2Fcard > 5.6M felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph > 11M felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data > 11M felix-cache/bundle100/data > 11M felix-cache/bundle100 > > It would be interesting to compare those sizes with Sesame. > > >> >> Thanks for pointing that out. I just checked the size of bundle 100 and just >> on my pretty empty test >> database that I run locally and delete every so often, it is 1.5GB! >> >> $ du -d 2 -h felix-cache/bundle100/ >> 1.5G felix-cache/bundle100//data/tdb-data >> 1.5G felix-cache/bundle100//data >> 16K felix-cache/bundle100//version0.0 >> 1.5G felix-cache/bundle100/ >> >> So for the Social Web applications I am working where I would like to work >> with a lot of graphs, this is not good. I'd like to know the reason for >> this. But it does look like a reason to switch to Sesame otherwise... >> >> Henry >> >> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Tsuy >>> >> >> Social Web Architect >> http://bblfish.net/ >> > > Social Web Architect > http://bblfish.net/ > --trialox ag-------------------------------------- Tsuyoshi Ito Hardturmstrasse 101 CH-8005 Zürich URL: http://trialox.org
